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 Post subject: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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http://my.spill.com/profiles/blogs/crav ... n-scream-4

Okay, so this is not a remake as first thought, but a reboot/sequel. David and Courtney Cox Arquette are both confirmed to return, but get this...Wes Craven is in talks to direct. That sounds like a sequel, I wanna see.

Before we go bashing down the beaten corpse of a horse road that we usually ponder when it comes to reboots. Think about the bright side, eh? Imagine how awesome a reboot of SCREAM could be? Think of Randy's rules for this one! He's already given us insight on horror movies, their sequels and the third in the trilogy, now let's get another tape from him explaining the rules on horror reboots and how to avoid death...the same way, again!

Scream is always clever when it comes to sterotyping horror movies, surely it has a good shot at itself right?

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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I really hope this isn't going to be a reboot. The Scream series isn't THAT old that it's requires a reboot.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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I really hope this isn't going to be a reboot. The Scream series isn't THAT old that it's requires a reboot.

Reboots are used to create more interest and/or reinvent a franchise. And for being old, you could say the same about Batman & Robin and Begins, 1998 - 2005 isn't that long apart. But yes, Batman required a reboot after his indentity was tarnished, but I'd still say a fourth Scream film could be really enjoyable if handled correctly.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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Scream was never that good IMO...

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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I hate how they're going for the 16-23 crowd this time.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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I've never really been a fan of the Scream movies, and I doubt this is what turns me around.

Also, loved the title. XD

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I have sworn off "Horror" movies until a good one comes out again... Rated R... and genuinely scary and gory but not like Saw/Hostle over the top... like good gore... I just wish directors and film studios would stop trying so hard to get the 13-17 y/o money...

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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I gotta say, the more I read about this, the more excited I am...

-Neve, David and Courteney are back.
-Jamie Kennedy is "apparently" going to return as Randy. (They're keeping the plot HEAVILY under wraps. I mean Cloverfield style. The cast weren't aloud to read past page 75 of the script to keep it all sealed).
-Most importantly Wes Craven is writing and directing, HALLELUJAH!
-Craven said that endless sequels, the modern spew of remakes, film studios, and directors are the butts of parodies in the film. The main characters have to figure out where the horror genre is in current days to figure out the modern events happening to and around them."

^Looks like Craven's got the right idea:
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Before we go bashing down the beaten corpse of a horse road that we usually ponder when it comes to reboots. Think about the bright side, eh? Imagine how awesome a reboot of SCREAM could be? Think of Randy's rules for this one! He's already given us insight on horror movies, their sequels and the third in the trilogy, now let's get another tape from him explaining the rules on horror reboots and how to avoid death...the same way, again!

Scream is always clever when it comes to sterotyping horror movies, surely it has a good shot at itself right?


Sounds like my kind of film. Craven got New Nightmare right, so I really hope this becomes another shining example of a reboot/sequel done right.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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They were filming some scenes near where I live (Downtown Northville, in michigan), in a bookstore. I went up there with a friend to check it out, and while it was very anti-climactic (I did get to see a few scenes being done, but a majority was just us standing in the hot sun watching nothing happening), I must now see it as I was part of the experience. Was cool to see Anthony Anderson and Courtney Cox though (even though she's in dire need of a sandwich) Was hoping they'd choose me to be an extra or something, but no such luck. Anyways with Craven involved it should be interesting at the very least.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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The main characters have to figure out where the horror genre is in current days to figure out the modern events happening to and around them."

Scream is always clever when it comes to sterotyping horror movies, surely it has a good shot at itself right?




The horror genre has been predictable and stagnant for quite some time because they're all either crappy Platinum Dunes remakes or gore porn like Saw. Now that doesn't mean I already think this movie is going to fail but it shouldn't focus on where the genre has been for the past 10 years, but how they can change it.

I consider myself a fan of horror films but outside of Paranormal Activity and Drag Me To Hell (which almost doesn't count) I don't think I've seen a single good horror flick in 10 years... At least not in US theaters. (felt the need to add that because I do dig a lot of Japanese horror).

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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Did someone say reboot?

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Sheep Cannon pretty much nailed it. It will be interesting to have this pan out as a success.

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Sheep Cannon wrote:
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The main characters have to figure out where the horror genre is in current days to figure out the modern events happening to and around them."

Scream is always clever when it comes to sterotyping horror movies, surely it has a good shot at itself right?




The horror genre has been predictable and stagnant for quite some time because they're all either crappy Platinum Dunes remakes or gore porn like Saw. Now that doesn't mean I already think this movie is going to fail but it shouldn't focus on where the genre has been for the past 10 years, but how they can change it.

I consider myself a fan of horror films but outside of Paranormal Activity and Drag Me To Hell (which almost doesn't count) I don't think I've seen a single good horror flick in 10 years... At least not in US theaters. (felt the need to add that because I do dig a lot of Japanese horror).


Well isn't the point of the self-referential satire of the Scream trilogy that it's aware of the genre conventions of horror, but confined within them? they just have to be aware enough to survive, not change the course, surely that's saved for the fans and writers of future projects, otherwise to me it would just come off preachy. The 90's kids in Scream knew about the rules of slasher flicks and that's how they stayed alive, now for the new generation it's about torture and suffering, so they'll have to learn to bypass that too.

Also, Paranormal Activity, good?

Really?

Really!?

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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Awesome the Hedgehog wrote:
The main characters have to figure out where the horror genre is in current days to figure out the modern events happening to and around them."

Scream is always clever when it comes to sterotyping horror movies, surely it has a good shot at itself right?




The horror genre has been predictable and stagnant for quite some time because they're all either crappy Platinum Dunes remakes or gore porn like Saw. Now that doesn't mean I already think this movie is going to fail but it shouldn't focus on where the genre has been for the past 10 years, but how they can change it.

I consider myself a fan of horror films but outside of Paranormal Activity and Drag Me To Hell (which almost doesn't count) I don't think I've seen a single good horror flick in 10 years... At least not in US theaters. (felt the need to add that because I do dig a lot of Japanese horror).


Well isn't the point of the self-referential satire of the Scream trilogy that it's aware of the genre conventions of horror, but confined within them? they just have to be aware enough to survive, not change the course, surely that's saved for the fans and writers of future projects, otherwise to me it would just come off preachy. The 90's kids in Scream knew about the rules of slasher flicks and that's how they stayed alive, now for the new generation it's about torture and suffering, so they'll have to learn to bypass that too.

Also, Paranormal Activity, good?

Really?

Really!?


Yes, really. I liked it because it was suspenseful and had well developed characters. My problem with the genre on a whole is horror movies have forgotten how to scare audiences and dread the unknown. Instead we're given movies where the "protagonists" are just annoying cannon fodder for a villain (who tends to have some sort of twisted morality issue) that people cheer for instead.

And I'm sorry but I'd find it hard to believe if this movie puts David Arquette is some kind of crazy death trap device, it goes off, and then 3 minutes before the credits role he comes out all "hey guys I'm ok" yet again lol.

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 Post subject: Re: SCREAM 4: Go or no go? By Homer, no Earl...
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jesus I hate the internet sometimes.

doesnt anyone get excited anymore for movies? have we become soo jaded that a new entry into a franchise you enjoy that it is immediately picked apart, dissected, and dismissed? what ever happened to "friday the 13th part 87 : jason vs the swamp monster, holy shit that sounds like fun!!"

scream 4? meh, it will not be an epic, perfectly shot, flawlessly executed, masterfully written, impeccably acted masterpiece, its gonna suck!

I loved scream, I loved scream 2, I really enjoyed scream 3 - not as much as 1 and 2 but it was still a damn fun watch, and you know what? I am willing to bet scream 4 will be fun, and thats all I want out of it, some fun, I dont expect deep characters or a griping engaging plot , I want to go to the movie for an hour and a half, turn off my brain and watch a sequel to a franchise I love, eat some popcorn, have some FUN and enjoy my self.

I think this movie will end up being good, and can not wait for it!

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One one hand, I want this to do well because the idea is clever and Craven has some good notches in his belt.

On the other hand, I hated the sequels and Craven is also famous for whoring out his movies into series with weak sequels that end up starting new cliches in the horror genre we hate.

I'm a bit wary, a bit hopeful.

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gore porn like Saw.


theres porn in saw? :wut:

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jesus I hate the internet sometimes.

doesnt anyone get excited anymore for movies? have we become soo jaded that a new entry into a franchise you enjoy that it is immediately picked apart, dissected, and dismissed? what ever happened to "friday the 13th part 87 : jason vs the swamp monster, holy shit that sounds like fun!!"

scream 4? meh, it will not be an epic, perfectly shot, flawlessly executed, masterfully written, impeccably acted masterpiece, its gonna suck!

I loved scream, I loved scream 2, I really enjoyed scream 3 - not as much as 1 and 2 but it was still a damn fun watch, and you know what? I am willing to bet scream 4 will be fun, and thats all I want out of it, some fun, I dont expect deep characters or a griping engaging plot , I want to go to the movie for an hour and a half, turn off my brain and watch a sequel to a franchise I love, eat some popcorn, have some FUN and enjoy my self.

I think this movie will end up being good, and can not wait for it!


When did I say it was going to suck? Because if that's what you got out of my two posts you missed the bit when I said:

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Now that doesn't mean I already think this movie is going to fail but it shouldn't focus on where the genre has been for the past 10 years, but how they can change it.


The point I'm trying to make is not that this movie is going to suck, but that the genre as of late has been terrible and rather than reshaping Scream to acknowledge the current state of horror he should focus more on making a film that's genuinely scary.

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thats the thing, scream has always been about subtly poking fun at the current state of horror, kind of like that really sarcastic friend whom you never quite know if he is fucking with you or being serious, scream has to change on some level to be able to do what it does best, turn an introspective eye at the current state of the horror genre.

I seriously doubt scream will straight up rip off saw, after all it is a slasher movie, I am sure it will remain a slasher movie and some how incorporate a few nods to movies like saw or hostel.

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