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 Post subject: Re: New President of the United States
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Well I made a whole wall of text directed towards GoldXF but if we're moving on then we're moving on. So I figured I'd share some footage of the celebration I was a part of last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj2JY2iVN1g
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EDIT: P.S. Bright green. Too hard to read?

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I didn't vote for him, but I sure as hell wish him luck. He's gonna spend the next three years fixing a big mess, hopefully he'll do some good in the mean time.

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God Damn I wish I got on this topic sooner. Have one drink too many... Three things.

1) Being someone who Texases Texas, I'm proud to see that Texas was %55 Red and %45 Blue, that's the closest that we've ever been to worthwhile and I look forward to next election when we might actually be a swing state. Unfortunately, the chances of my fellow Texans realizing that they're most likely Libertarian, look at Texas history and society as a whole, are slim to none; so I look forward also to possibly seeing a Blue Republic of Texas in four years.

2) Being a Jew, I gotta admit, however much I hate the guy, Hitler was a brilliant strategist from 1918 to 1940. He fucked himself when he stopped bombing the UK and invaded Russia. He also gave us almost all of our modern medical technology by killing my people, and others, in atrocious ways. And, as much as hate to do this, I have to thank Hitler for the Autobahn. But beyond all of that, Fuck Hitler and everything he did.

3) I hope everybody realizes how dangerous is it is to have one party control both the Legislative branch and the Executive Branch. Lesson to be learned from this election and all elections prior. Quit perpetuating the damned red and blue pendulum and vote third party so we aren't constantly fucking ourselves in ass!

on that note... there is fake Sarah Palin porn somewhere. WE NEED TO FIND IT!!!

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3) I hope everybody realizes how dangerous is it is to have one party control both the Legislative branch and the Executive Branch. Lesson to be learned from this election and all elections prior. Quit perpetuating the damned red and blue pendulum and vote third party so we aren't constantly fucking ourselves in ass!


Agreed... as long as it isn't this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo


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on that note... there is fake Sarah Palin porn somewhere. WE NEED TO FIND IT!!!


Yeah we do...

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3) I hope everybody realizes how dangerous is it is to have one party control both the Legislative branch and the Executive Branch. Lesson to be learned from this election and all elections prior. Quit perpetuating the damned red and blue pendulum and vote third party so we aren't constantly fucking ourselves in ass!


Agreed... as long as it isn't this guy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsP6XN2dIo



Ugh... Ralph, why? I have complete respect for this man and what he's done, and I understand the point he's trying to make but to use racist a term such as "Uncle Tom" is beyond absurd. I'll always be grateful for what Ralph has done in his career but I just lost some respect points for him. :-(

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Nader now will lose even more ground cause of what he said

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I'm just going to say this once, and I will let it be:

I don't EVER want to hear about Hitler having the right idea again, even as a joke. I don't get rattled easily, but this is a very sensitive subject for me. That's all I'm going to say about the subject.

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So, what the fuck did this thread turn into? Fucking maniacs.

Best part was that one douche insulting you people as "communists". HA! TAKE THAT BACK!!!!!

This shit deserves to be locked and trashed.

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2)Hitler was a brilliant strategist from 1918 to 1940.


He was an exceptional public speaker...nothing more. He underestimated the french, stopped bombing England, turned on Russia, tried to fight the war on two fronts, wasted a shit ton of resources on his crusade against non-Aryans, didn't listen to his advisers (Which coincidentally were some of the greatest strategists in history) and topped it all off by not even considering the possibility of being pushed back and thus was not prepared.


What I don't get...is how we can take a topic about the man who is supposed to usher in a new era of hope, peace, and change, and turn it into a topic about Hitler :/


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on that note... there is fake Sarah Palin porn somewhere. WE NEED TO FIND IT!!!


It's not very hard to find (I assume). It's made by HUSTLER, is called "Who's Nailin' Palin?" and stars Lisa Ann as Sarah Palin...and I have said too much :razz: .

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People are looking for the film. Just go to an Adult shop and ask for it. I am sure they would have more info on it.

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What I don't get...is how we can take a topic about the man who is supposed to usher in a new era of hope, peace, and change, and turn it into a topic about Hitler :/

Mostly because some self righteous person with a complete lack of respect and empathy will make an analogy to Hitler one way or another when things aren't going to their way because, in their mind, anyone disagreeing with them is either in league with Hitler or should have been among the people he slaughtered. I'd say Mister O'Reilly is the text book example of the first, and we have seen a very good demonstration of the latter in this very thread.

I guess the argument is supposed to make the "target" feel regret and self blame, but in this day and age, I'd it's the quickest and most effective way to blow all your credibility out the window as it shows that you can't make a good argument without trying to link the person in question to one of the most hated and feared figures in history.

What I find mighty ironic is that when you decide to play the latter and say anyone who disagrees with them should be "purged", you basically align yourself with the one you are trying to demonize, thus removing all doubt that you A) think genocide is a pretty neat idea, B) think of yourself as a superior human being, and C) think that certain opinions should be punishable with the death penalty.

Am I demonizing the ones playing the second version of the "Hitler-card"? Not really, what I'm doing is a basic analysis of what such an act implies of the person using it.

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householdutensils wrote:
OldManSinclair wrote:
2)Hitler was a brilliant strategist from 1918 to 1940.


He was an exceptional public speaker...nothing more. He underestimated the french, stopped bombing England, turned on Russia, tried to fight the war on two fronts, wasted a shit ton of resources on his crusade against non-Aryans, didn't listen to his advisers (Which coincidentally were some of the greatest strategists in history) and topped it all off by not even considering the possibility of being pushed back and thus was not prepared.


Actually, if you look at his life from 1918 till 1940 you'll see how he strategically planned each manipulation, minus a few things that simply fell into his lap. He used people's credulity and fear to his advantage.
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Pre-Nazi Germany was in a huge economic downturn. A loaf of bread was worth more marks than you could fit in a wheelbarrow (1927-1934ish). The people needed someone to take them out of depression and they saw Hitler as their man. As far as political prowess goes, he and Goering did a whole hell of a lot of public and media manipulation (the guy in charge of media's name I can't remember right now). For example, he manipulated President Hindenburg into naming Hitler Chancellor on January 30th of 1933, the Reichstag was burned on February 27th of 1933. The first person on the scene was Goering, who was screaming how it was a Communist plot. March 23rd marked Hitler's basically supreme executive power and on July 17th of 1933, the forming of new political parties was outlawed. All I'm really saying is that up until 1940, his strategies were sound. He didn't really cut his own throat until 1941 when he invaded Russia.

I spoilered it because it's off topic. And again I must stress, I HATE HITLER.

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Pre-Nazi Germany was in a huge economic downturn. A loaf of bread was worth more marks than you could fit in a wheelbarrow (1927-1934ish). The people needed someone to take them out of depression and they saw Hitler as their man. As far as political prowess goes, he and Goering did a whole hell of a lot of public and media manipulation (the guy in charge of media's name I can't remember right now). For example, he manipulated President Hindenburg into naming Hitler Chancellor on January 30th of 1933, the Reichstag was burned on February 27th of 1933. The first person on the scene was Goering, who was screaming how it was a Communist plot. March 23rd marked Hitler's basically supreme executive power and on July 17th of 1933, the forming of new political parties was outlawed. All I'm really saying is that up until 1940, his strategies were sound. He didn't really cut his own throat until 1941 when he invaded Russia.


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Funny. You're wrong about many things and you don't even know it.


No. I'm not. I'll give you all my sources. But as link said, different place.

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Well...to lighten things up check this out. http://superobamaworld.com/ the game is funny and cleaver. Plus who can hate Mario?

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One more off topic post:

Can Godwin's Law apply to this forum as auto lose?

On topic:
I did vote for Obama, but I'll still be wondering if he can live up to the promises he made. I do find in him some sort of hope along the lines of when I watch videos of FDR. But it is the times and not the man that make the president's rating.

As an example, Warren Harding is probably one of the worst presidents ever. He was corrupt including an involvement in the Teapot Dome Scandal. Still, he is usually ignored by the general populace as the roaring 20s were great for the most part. Then there is Nixon who is generally disliked for lying and LBJ for getting us into the Vietnam War when both did some great stuff. Nixon ended the Vietnam War and LBJ helped pass the Civil Rights legislation.

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