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I actually had a point not too long ago where I went ape-shit going through wikipedia looking at all the different marvel and DC comics, heroes, universes, etc. It's insane how expansive it is XD

One series that interested me in particular was the Green Lantern. I've also heard good things about Spawn and Deadpool, and they both sound like my cup of tea.


I know I'm just echoing others here but the DC relaunch may be perfect for you. The idea behind it is specifically aimed at attracting new readers who feel it's too overwhelming to pick up comics. If you're looking into Green Lantern I'd recommend picking up the upcoming Green Lantern #1 and maybe Green Lantern Corps #1 or even Justice League #1. If you like Batman I'd say pick up Batman #1 when it hits stands because the writer on the book has been kicking serious ass with his last arc. The other cool thing is that if you're too far from a shop DC is also going digital for each of their books when the relaunch hits. They'll be online the same day they hit stores and get discounted after a couple of weeks.

I'm not a Spawn guy so I can't help you there, but if you want a modern Deadpool I'd probably stick with his main book. In the past few years Deadpool has kind blown up to Wolverine proportions, with something like 10 different series and mini series. Its calming down now and his current arc only has one more issue to go so issue #43 will be a new story and a jumping on point.

As for general things:

- If you find a book you like, check out the writer's other works. Its the fastest way to expand to other books.

- Ask the guy/girl at the counter for suggestions. They're the ones who know best on what's popular, and if you give them an idea of what you want to read they'll be able to point you in a good enough direction. Every comic shop is hurting a little these days and want people as return business. Its also possible they may have some sort of repeat customer program (both of mine do at least) where they'll knock off a couple of bucks for X amount of dollars spent.

- Mongo is right that it isn't a cheap hobby, but it also comes down to how much you read. If you're only reading 5 books that roughly should come out to $15 - $20 a month. I myself follow quite a few so I spend $35 or so a week; which is down from my old $45 or more a week. But there's always the option of picking up trade paperbacks which usually collect 4-6 issues for $15 - $20. The only downside is you'll alway be a few months behind. But going digital is looking like a godsend for me for titles I'm on the fence about.

- Comics come out every Wednesday and most site have their reviews up by the next day. Always check out more than one site though because sometimes you can come across a review that is particularly biased to particular writers; ign is a huge offender. Also browse the comment sections on reviews to see what the general public has to say, but no need to go nuts and read every single one.

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Anyone have a link that has renders of the DC heroes in their spiffy new costumes?

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So here's what I've picked up of the new 52.

Batman, Batman and Robin, Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batwing, Justice League, and Nightwing. And also because it got a new series TMNT which features Kevin Eastman so it has some pretty good old school vibe to it.

I have to say I'm pretty impressed with where comics have progressed to since I last picked one up. I remember much of them being girls with big tits in skimpy outfits, dudes with equally big tits (pecs) and boulder biceps with spike hair and scruffy chin hair, and minimalist story lines. That could be time playing tricks on me but that's what I remember. Everything I've picked up has had pretty good character interaction, development, storyline and the artwork is very distinct from one another.

Oh, and Batwing #1 is off the chains.

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So here's what I've picked up of the new 52.

Batman, Batman and Robin, Swamp Thing, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batwing, Justice League, and Nightwing. And also because it got a new series TMNT which features Kevin Eastman so it has some pretty good old school vibe to it.

I have to say I'm pretty impressed with where comics have progressed to since I last picked one up. I remember much of them being girls with big tits in skimpy outfits, dudes with equally big tits (pecs) and boulder biceps with spike hair and scruffy chin hair, and minimalist story lines. That could be time playing tricks on me but that's what I remember. Everything I've picked up has had pretty good character interaction, development, storyline and the artwork is very distinct from one another.

Oh, and Batwing #1 is off the chains.


Sounds like the last time must have been the early to mid 90's.

The new TMNT book took me by surprise too. I love how they're working in the characters from the cartoon in this iteration but still keeping the tone of the original books. Haven't read Batwing (yet) but for the most part I've enjoyed the DC relaunch. Batman, Green Lantern, Justice League and Nightwing have been my favorites so far.

Oh, and Mark Waid's Daredevil has been consecutively been one of the best books I've been reading for the past few months.

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How about a Mystery Woman? Alien

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Low Budget Jeff wrote:
I have to say I'm pretty impressed with where comics have progressed to since I last picked one up. I remember much of them being girls with big tits in skimpy outfits, dudes with equally big tits (pecs) and boulder biceps with spike hair and scruffy chin hair, and minimalist story lines.


Avoid Red Hood and the Outlaws, Suicide Squad, and Catwoman then. :)

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I have to say I'm pretty impressed with where comics have progressed to since I last picked one up. I remember much of them being girls with big tits in skimpy outfits, dudes with equally big tits (pecs) and boulder biceps with spike hair and scruffy chin hair, and minimalist story lines.


Avoid Red Hood and Suicide Squad

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haha, well he was talking about not seeing T&A everywhere. Besides, Suicide Squad wasn't THAT good, but I'll give the 2nd issue a shot. Stay tuned for more this Wednesday.

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I have to say I'm pretty impressed with where comics have progressed to since I last picked one up. I remember much of them being girls with big tits in skimpy outfits, dudes with equally big tits (pecs) and boulder biceps with spike hair and scruffy chin hair, and minimalist story lines.


Avoid Red Hood and the Outlaws, Suicide Squad, and Catwoman then. :)


Yeah, that's kind of what I had gathered, at least about SS and Catwoman.

I was interested in Red Hood simply because I thought Jason Todd as a character was always pretty interesting. At least until he got himself crowbar'd up.

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I was interested in Red Hood simply because I thought Jason Todd as a character was always pretty interesting. At least until he got himself crowbar'd up.


They turn Starfire into an emotionless sex bunny, more or less is the vibe I'm getting from everything I've seen/read.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:16 am 
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Just weighing in on the discussions on Catwoman, Suicide Squad and Red Hood and the Outlaws:

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Catwoman - People got upset about her and Bats having sex. I haven't read it yet, but I don't see what's the big deal. For as long as I've been alive (and longer) those two have had sexual tension. All Judd Winick did was finally have them do it. From what I understand it goes on for 3 pages, but nothing gratuitous goes on. And if people are upset about comic book characters having sex: grow the fuck up. Its not the first time this has happened in a mainstream book. Hell, Black Cat did practically the same thing to Spider-man last year after O.M.I.T., and no one made a big stink about it then.

Suicide Squad - I have read this one, and the main complaint is what Harley is wearing. Now yes, it is a little bit of fan service, but again nothing gratuitous. She has yet to be posed in an unnatural fashion, we haven't seen anything poking out, or even outlines of anything below the clothes. The other thing people are getting upset at is that Amanda Waller isn't fat. Again I say so what? Catman was a fat loser for years, but now everyone loves him because he got buff and badass in Secret Six. Plus, its the first book in a whole new relaunch. This is like the Barbara Gordon outrage, which I have no problem saying I'm glad she's out of the chair.

Red Hood and the Outlaws - Ok this one is actually one I have to say there is legitimate reasons for people to become upset. I read the book, and liked it. Sure the Starfire thing comes off pretty sexist; but as a whole story I can't say I'm not intrigued to see where it goes. I want to know why she is the way she is, and I like the idea of Roy and Jason teaming up and not exactly acting like heroes. I've always like villain lead books: Thunderbolts, Dark Avengers, Lex Luthor in Action Comics, Secret Six, the Rogues themed books from Geoff Johns' first run on The Flash, Villains United and Deadpool (specifically Joe Kelly's run). And when looking at it through that perspective I tend to let something like this slide. Does it make me somewhat chauvinistic? Maybe, but I don't offend to easily though.

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NOT GRATUITOUS?! THERE'S FULL BLOWN PENETRATION!

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The difference between Black Cat and Catwoman is that Black Cat had a fade to black. Catwoman had fanservicey/fanfictiony hot sex for 13 year old boys. :-/ As for Amanda Waller, yeah it's irksome, I'm not a fan of it, but it's done for shock value just like Harley's costume. I'm still waiting for the plot to actually prove me wrong on that book.

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I think we disagree on what constitutes on "full blown penetration". I see Batman's abs, and a boot off. That T on the cover rates for all teens, and to be honest I've seen more flesh on network tv. Is it shock value? Sure. but it's gotten people talking. I'd say that's pretty effective.

EDIT: Actually, after some reading the book is T+, meaning 16 and older. So again, it's aimed at an older audience than people are giving it credit for.

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I think we disagree on what constitutes on "full blown penetration". I see Batman's abs, and a boot off. That T on the cover rates for all teens, and to be honest I've seen more flesh on network tv. Is it shock value? Sure. but it's gotten people talking. I'd say that's pretty effective.


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The point is it's blatantly showing them fucking (her suit is zipped down and her legs wrapped around Batman's waste, at the very least, if they aren't having sex they're having some dry hump-a-thon.) It's in poor taste no matter which way you spin it, thus why I shit on it. There's a million better ways to do a sex scene.

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I think we disagree on what constitutes on "full blown penetration". I see Batman's abs, and a boot off. That T on the cover rates for all teens, and to be honest I've seen more flesh on network tv. Is it shock value? Sure. but it's gotten people talking. I'd say that's pretty effective.


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The point is it's blatantly showing them fucking (her suit is zipped down and her legs wrapped around Batman's waste, at the very least, if they aren't having sex they're having some dry hump-a-thon.) It's in poor taste no matter which way you spin it, thus why I shit on it. There's a million better ways to do a sex scene.


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I think the problem that people have here, including you, is that its Batman and Catwoman having sex. I highly doubt you felt the same way from the blatant sex, and nudity, from Watchmen. If you want gratuitous it doesn't get any more blatant than Nite Owl and Silk Spectre (not to mention Dr. Manhattan). And again, here both Batman and Catwoman still have 90% of their clothes on.

And yes, I know Watchmen is a mature book (which, by the way, has no rating on it). Doesn't change the fact that its one of the best selling comics of all time; and has reached millions more readers than Catwoman #1.

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FICTIONAL CHARACTERS WITH CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM HAVE JUST HAD SEX IN A WAY THAT'S IN CHARACTER FOR THEM!

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I've seen Catwoman be sexy, and even have sex with people, and it's always been done a lot more tastefully is all I'm saying. Even Silk Spectre and Nite Owl was done with more taste if I remember right. I don't remember being outright offended, and maybe it's because they weren't Batman & Catwoman, but the panels just looked like smut and fanservice to me done for shock value. It's effective, sure, but it also makes me not give a fuck about Judd Winnick books from here on out. I constantly hear that he has all his female characters sleep around with everything under the sun, and here it looks to be no different.

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I've seen Catwoman be sexy, and even have sex with people, and it's always been done a lot more tastefully is all I'm saying. Even Silk Spectre and Nite Owl was done with more taste if I remember right. I don't remember being outright offended, and maybe it's because they weren't Batman & Catwoman, but the panels just looked like smut and fanservice to me done for shock value. It's effective, sure, but it also makes me not give a fuck about Judd Winnick books from here on out. I constantly hear that he has all his female characters sleep around with everything under the sun, and here it looks to be no different.

The man made Juniper Lee, so I really doubt that.

As for this case, I think it works. Selina has always had that dangerous gal side to her, so is it that surprising she would do something so impulsive? Plus she's one of the few women who can get under Bruce Wayne's skin.

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Her greatest weapon over him is her sexuality. The moment she gives him that is the moment she loses any and all advantage she ever had. I mean, she's been able to make him turn a blind eye to her crimes in her villain days with just a simple kiss. It feels a bit too impulsive for me, but it is the new 52 and we'll see where everything pans out. I'm just saying I could've definitely done without the art, regardless of age. I try not to feel embarrassed reading a comic in public (tough I know) and pages like this make it a lot worse I suppose due to the pre-existing stigma of comics being all about sexy half naked unrealistic ladies and dudes wearing their underwear the wrong way.

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