I can't believe what I'm about to say...but pedophiles are people too, some have yet to act on their urges, yet do not have any sort of help in controlling said urges. Why is it that there doesn't exist any groups to help pedophiles control their urges unless they've already been convicted?

Of all shows, SVU is the only one that's ever brought it up. They had an episode where a kid goes in to the station and admits that he's a pedophile but doesn't want to be out of fear of hurting a child or his brother, seeing himself as a monster. He gets help from another pedophile who prides himself on never touching a single child, but also runs a site with pictures of children, not porn but just simple pictures, bringing in a huge gray area. Was this person right in making this site for fellow pedophiles if it served a purpose of making sure they don't act on their urges? Was it right to use actual pictures for said site? Was it right for Stabler to go crazy after seeing a picture of his daughter on there and attack the man? Was it right for said man to attack the kid who was worried over his urges after he admits that he finally gave in on a random child?

This is something that's been bugging me. One doesn't choose to be a pedophile, yet our society doesn't offer a way to help people realizing they are pedophiles ways to control their desires, resulting in eventual pent of sexual issues that lead to child rape. As a society, how should we handle someone who's admitted to being a pedophile but hates this fact? Because right now it seems to be do nothing and eventually wait for them to harm a child before getting involved.

Just treating pedophiles as inhuman monsters only makes the problem that much worse, planting in their head before they act that the only thing they can be is the monster we paint them as.

So what do we do about such a thing as a society?

They already exist, though, just for the convicted.

I think part of the reason this question never comes up because it instantly brings up homosexuality when you get down to why they're pedophiles. No one really wants to denounce homosexuality, even some of the right, but then you have pedophilia here which seems to have a similar reason for being.

All around, it's not an easy question, but I see it as something that needs to seriously be discussed.

Pedophiles are also straight as well.

Yes, but what I was bringing up was how it's argued that pedophilia exists for similar reasons as homosexuality, mainly a difference in the mind. Where as one is between two consenting adults, the other harms someone who isn't even developed as a person yet. Sadly, the connection between them is there and it incredibly hard to ignore, mainly because you just know some idiotic zeloit would bring it up in any major debate.

Probably off topic. But you know what annoys me about Paedophillia?

A couple aged 30 - 18

Accepted, if a little weird

15 - 13

Normal.

17 - 15

HOLY SHIT DATS ILLEGAL! (UK laws of course)



Also wouldn't help be somewhat easy to obtain? A psychologist could help you out. They'd be bound to confidentiallity.

In the states, the stigma against pedophilia is at a major high, so high that many fear seeking help and admitting what they are out of fear of being judged or even attacked. It's the type of thing that breaks apart families, what should be the strongest bond.

Then don't go broadcasting it then?

In a government you lose some liberties to gain a safe and secure society. An adult is more or so deemed to be adept to know their wrights and wrongs if they have a metal illness the person usually ends up having therapy which can be anything from rapist to being a pedophile. Usually if you have never been convicted of this acts you don't want people to know about it that is just common sense because it might affect your life even more.

What if the person in question is still a minor legally, a teenager in puberty? They would require a parent's consent for consoling and even then there's the whole problem of explaining this to said parent. How do you think they'll react to find out their young man or woman is attracted to little boys or girls?

Same thing just that it is the parents choice to be secrete or not about it.

...you do realize just how massive a bombshell like admitting that you're a pedo to your parents is, right?

In this culture, it's nearly equal to saying you loved Hitler. It's basically the quickest way to completely destroy a family.

You do realize that I am not a Pedophile and that is what I find to be the best solution. I did answer you question, did I not and unless you have a problem with the Government that keeps you safe I really think you should think twice cause being a Pedophile is never going to be accepted in this society. Sure they are persons just like everyone but there is some really sick people out there. Maybe they fell down of a clift, maybe they where violated when they where little, or maybe they where born that way the only thing I know is that I like being safe and if I have children someday I want them to be safe too.

Pretty much all laws in the US are stacked against pedophiles. Not that they shouldn't have strict laws, of course. But, for example, if someone has possession of pedophilia pornographic materials, it's a felony. So, actually admitting to something like that and seeking help could land you a significant sentence and financial penalty ... and would, obviously, mar your record.

I'm pretty sure the reason why so many pedophiles go under the radar until they act on their impulses and are caught is because, they have no safe way of dealing with the way they feel without their lives being completely destroyed.

Even sex offenders and murderers don't have to face that kind of stigma. Yes, you should know who the registered pedophilia sex offenders are in your neighborhood ... but just because someone has a problem doesn't mean it needs to be stamped on their public record for them to never be able to find a job again.

Not condoning any of their actions, I just agree that the situation is a very unhealthy one.

At this stage in time, society doesn't talk about the issue of mental health, in general, because if you admit you need help, it's like admitting you have no mental competency. In reality, the majority of people in society could do with a healthy dose of mental therapy.

I dont think that this falls under the same "Youre born that way" stigma that fall onto homosexual persons. I understand if a homosexual is born that way then thats the way things are. However I believe that in the vast majority of cases of persons who suffer, notice I say suffer, from pedophilia it is more of a triggered responce.

Im saying this because I remember seeing it on TV haha. I dont remember what I was watching, but it was talking about how in the vast majority of cases where convicted pedophiles were interviewed and went though therapy almost all of them were able to trace their feelings back to an event that happened in their youth. Usually around the same age as the children that they are interested in sexually.

One story was about a guy who was interested in girls like age 10 or something around there. He told one of the therapists about how when he was younger there was a girl around that age who he spent a lot of time with. Their families joked about how they were made for each other and they were going to spend forever together or something like that. They spent all their time together. Then she got sick and died. It is believed that this traumitized him and his feelings of want towards girls of that age range is triggered by this event.

Now Im not saying that this is in all the cases. There are just people out there who are wired differently and need help, or people who were abused or other determining factors. However to say they are like homosexuals because they are born that way and give it a broad ranging factor isnt right. SOmeo f them have other factors that have caused them to act and feel the way they do.

Whoa whoa whoa... pump those brakes. I see what you're saying but you're devaluing homosexuality to a point where it is just about the sex. It is not. That is the difference here. Pedophilia is marked by lashing out sexually whereas homosexuality is about romance, like heterosexuality. Do you see the distinction? You're going down a dangerous road where people stop viewing homosexuality as a fact of life and more as a pure sexual fetish. That's what always irks me... when people call homosexuality a fetish. A fetish is caused by environmental factors while homosexuality and heterosexuality is something you're born with. Nature vs nurture. I suppose there are cases where pedophiles are born, but most pedophilia can be chalked up to environment, like sexual repression or the pedophile themselves getting molested as a child. I think the Catholic church is prime example of environment leading to pedophilia through their practice of harsh sexual repression. In cases of pedophilia, it's not necessarily the sexual want to be with a child, it's about domination and control over a sexual object. Pedophiles tend to objectify children rather than see them in a romantic light.

Not to be rude, but I'm going by the scientific view here, not the culture. I meant no insult, simply point out why it's dangerous to bring up in today's culture of 24 hour news because you know that a shit ton of people would believe it and start shouting it everywhere.

But pedophilia is a mental disorder whereas homosexuality is not. You said "sadly, the connection between them is there and it incredibly hard to ignore." There is no connection. If you mean connections on the level of it being a sexual behavior then why just say there is a connection between gay and pedos? You're implying that not only is there a connection, but they're both disorders and both caused by the same thing. They are not. If pedophilia comes from the same place homosexuality does then it comes from the same place heterosexuality does. Charges of pedophilia and comparisons between pedophiles and gays have been used for centuries as an excuse to persecute homosexuals, throw them in prison, or execute them. In fact, charges of pedophilia are still used today as a means to discriminate against homosexuals. You can see why your comments have thrown up red flags with me.

Also, here is another statement that has me upset: "No one really wants to denounce homosexuality, even some of the right, but then you have pedophilia here which seems to have a similar reason for being." No, not a similar reason at all. At all. I know you're not saying homosexuality = pedophilia, but you're damn close and that's not good.

See, I get what you're saying but the way you are saying it implies you believe the pedophilia and homosexuality are caused by the same thing. You're also implying that the science is settled on that issue while it is most certainly not. Homosexuality is not a learned behavior like pedophilia can be. It is separate from pedophilia. Homosexuality is just a point on the spectrum of sexual orientation. Pedophilia is not a part of that spectrum at all. Homosexuality is an observable phenomena in the animal kingdom in a wide variety of species... pedophilia is not. They are separate. Homosexuality is healthy, pedophilia is not.

Homosexuality and pedophilia should never be compared, as there is nothing to compare. They are two totally different things.

It sounds offensive to say homosexuality is a mental illness (which is a very offensive general statement, for sure), but it may be true that some people are homosexual as a result of mental illness, or rather, psychological trauma. Many mental illness' affect sexual orientation, regardless of what direction it makes the person lean: homosexual, heterosexual, bestiality, pedophilia, etc. There's so many mental sexual implications that it'd be a bit foolish to say, "oh yes, all of these orientations can be either natural or mentally induced, but not homosexuality ever, because homosexuals are oppressed enough". Which is how what you're saying is coming off.

People have all sorts of problems, and if you have a mental illness it can manifest is so many different ways.

I want to be clear, I'm not saying homosexuality is a mental illness. I'm saying that it's possible that someone can choose that sexual orientation (subconsciously) as a result of a mental illness due to psychological trauma, as well as any other sexual orientation. I'm pretty positive there's plenty of people who are strictly heterosexual due to psychological trauma ... or people who have a thing for amputees or drinking blood, etc, from psychological trauma and mental illness.

But then there's bisexuals and homosexual transsexuals, which, yes, we should accept in society, but you can't really say without a shadow of a doubt that some of those people have faced difficulties in their lives that could develop in that sort of disposition. For example someone who feels trapped in the opposite sex's body and is also homosexual, the homosexuality could be a further manifestation of their mental insecurity with who they are ... which doesn't sound like the same thing as a natural sexual desire.

People are very complex and brains are weird and segregating one sexual orientation over another because of social stigma and personal feelings is just silly and counter productive.