Max wrote:
Okay, so tell me if i'm seeing this right.
WXYZ wrote:
BLA BLA BLA BLA YOU MAKE ME SICK BLA BLA BLA BLA SONY IS NOT AT FAULT BLA BLA BLA BLA YOU CONSUME EVRYONE AROUND YOU WITH HATE AND YOU HAVE A DRUG PROBLEM LOL!!!!!!!
Way to introduce yourself to the forums. My name is Max. Well, you allready know that part.

Where do I begin?...
Sony is a mega giant of the video game industry, a multi billion dollar corporation. You would think they would be able to afford state of the art internet security, firewalls, whatever.
They have customers all over the world so they have the massive task and responsibility of keeping their customers private information safe. No matter which way you try to spin it, it's their job to keep their customers information safe and it's their job to prevent hackers from getting into their networks. Well, both of these happened and you can bet your ass it's Sony's fault, 100%, end of fucking story.
I'm sure you heard of the saying "the customer is always right". Well it doesn't totally have to do with this situation, the idea behind it is similar. The fact that Sony is a business means they are automatically held accountable for their shortcomings, especially when there is enough reasons to hold them accountable (not telling the public early enough that they should change their password information, not having good enough security, keeping the PSN down for weeks).
I know you want to blame the hackers, but don't try to weasel around the fact that Sony and the hackers are two completely different entities. The hackers are not a business and they don't have the resources that Sony has.
Nice try. I know I'm guilty of name calling too, but maybe I can try to be better than that and you should to. Don't make foolish assumptions about my personal life when all you have to go on is a short couple of paragraphs of text on a forum. I mean, I could make ridiculous claims about your personal life like "LOL YOU MUST BE A VIRGIN AND HAVE A TINY PENIS". If you want to be taken seriously, then refrain from this bullshit. Or better yet, just accept that I believe that Sony is to blame and accept that you can't change my mind as much as I could change yours, and let that be the end of it.
Time for a play-by-play...
Max wrote:
Sony is a mega giant of the video game industry, a multi billion dollar corporation. You would think they would be able to afford state of the art internet security, firewalls, whatever.
They have customers all over the world so they have the massive task and responsibility of keeping their customers private information safe. No matter which way you try to spin it, it's their job to keep their customers information safe and it's their job to prevent hackers from getting into their networks. Well, both of these happened and you can bet your ass it's Sony's fault, 100%, end of fucking story.
What makes you think that Sony doesn't do
everything in their power to keep the information of their customers confidential? And who are you to state that they don't? (Both are rhetorical questions.) A company like this needs to do so. As I said above, there is no perfect system. The only things that come even close are those used by the federal governments of countries, and even those aren't perfect. I am aware that I am repeating myself when I say that the purpose of computer security is to make it
harder for hackers to get in. It's effectively a system for making them rage-quit. If a hacker (or group of hackers) is motivated enough, and has enough patience, they can hack anything. Well, unless they get caught, but the Sony hackers haven't, so it's a moot point.
Yes, it is Sony's job to be protecting it's consumers, but there is no way that 100% of the blame can be put on Sony. I think I have the perfect analogy for this:
A surrogate mother is being paid to have a baby for a couple in which the girl was infertile. The surrogate was then stabbed multiple times after she told a person who was trying smoking near her to go away. The baby dies, but she survives. The couple who had hired the surrogate sued her for the murder of their unborn child.
It's not perfect, but it's about as close to a good analogy as I can make it. Sure, if they mother was
being more careful she wouldn't have been knifed. Maybe she should have stayed indoors twenty four seven, and remain unconnected from the world so that nobody could use her.
Yes, I will admit that the statement I had made earlier is not as accurate as it should be. Here, I'll fix that.
WXYZ wrote:
SONY IS NOT ENTIRELY AT BLAME
Max wrote:
I know you want to blame the hackers, but don't try to weasel around the fact that Sony and the hackers are two completely different entities. The hackers are not a business and they don't have the resources that Sony has.
I never at any point said that the two were the same entities. I never said hackers are businesses, nor buisness like. As for resources, let me ask you something. Have you aver hacked anything? Have you ever seen anything hacked? A hacker only needs two things in order to infiltrate any connection:
A computer and a connection.
The latter is significantly harder to obtain, which is the majority of the battle, but my point is this: You don't need millions of dollars of equipment to hack a company. Hacking is 99% knowledge. It's an obtained skill. To be completely honest, anyone can become a competent hacker in about a year, which severely frightens me. As I've said already, fighting hackers is an up-hill battle. You can's say that because the businesses have millions of dollars in their security departments and that hackers don't that hackers are inferior to them.
I would like to know, where do you get you're knowledge about hacking? (This is also rhetorical.) You make brazen statements about how the hackers are in no way to blame, and how they do their work. I feel that these are ignorant statements, which leads me into my next point:
Max wrote:
Or better yet, just accept that I believe that Sony is to blame and accept that you can't change my mind as much as I could change yours, and let that be the end of it.
I am not trying to change your mind. I apologize if I came off as such. I am trying to point out the flaws in the statements you have made in order to show in invalidation of your arguments. I'm not saying that you should stop, nor that I want you to for that matter. I would honestly enjoy it if you brought up a legitimate point and founded it with real support. I believe that you are just spewing ignorance. By proving me wrong, it would make both of our days, as well as the days of many other people who frequent this forum. I know I am starting to sound self-righteous, but the whole reason I posted what I did was because I saw something that I see and deal with everyday, something I can't stand for.