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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 10:01 am 
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guys! I just realized how balls to the wall awesome a Borderlands 2 would be! kinda related kinda not but you gotta agree it would be awesome, it would be the bomb digity!!!!
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isn't it too soon? :3

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:21 am 
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yea were way too nit picky, while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS, and diablo 3 is going to be a flight sim.

this game was the last real survival horror game that was both scary ( horror ) and had you on the ropes all the time ( survival / surviving ) , if they make you another over powered killing machine it will be neither scary nor any real survival , it will almost literally be resident evil 5 in space spiced up with a bit of gears of war for good measure.

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And to that I say look at Resident Evil 4. Its the best selling game of its series, the most critically acclaimed of its series and yet different from what came before. I'm just saying that chances of this game just down right sucking are pretty slim. In the worst case scenario we get a Bioshock 2 scenario: the game is ok, but just doesn't live up to its predecessor; which in all honesty I can live with. But I do hope the game can still be just as scary as the first one.


resident evil 4 was a great game, resident evil 5 was not, Dead space = resident evil 4, and now we have a sequel coming out to dead space , and from what they said about being more action oriented, it sounds like it is going down the exact same path as RE5.

dead space right from the get go has emulated RE4, and all indicators at the moment point to the fact that dead space 2 will emulate RE5, which is what concerns me.

I have aboslutely no doubt it will be a great game - game play wise - but that doesn't mean it will be a great dead space or survival horror game, there are enough 3rd person shooter action games out there ( now including RE series ) we dont need another one, we have gears of war for that, lets keep at least one franchise firmly rooted in survival horror.

I sure do hope I am wrong , because dead space is probably my favorite game of the xbox 360 generation outside of mass effect 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 1:17 pm 
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yea were way too nit picky, while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS, and diablo 3 is going to be a flight sim.

this game was the last real survival horror game that was both scary ( horror ) and had you on the ropes all the time ( survival / surviving ) , if they make you another over powered killing machine it will be neither scary nor any real survival , it will almost literally be resident evil 5 in space spiced up with a bit of gears of war for good measure.

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And to that I say look at Resident Evil 4. Its the best selling game of its series, the most critically acclaimed of its series and yet different from what came before. I'm just saying that chances of this game just down right sucking are pretty slim. In the worst case scenario we get a Bioshock 2 scenario: the game is ok, but just doesn't live up to its predecessor; which in all honesty I can live with. But I do hope the game can still be just as scary as the first one.


resident evil 4 was a great game, resident evil 5 was not, Dead space = resident evil 4, and now we have a sequel coming out to dead space , and from what they said about being more action oriented, it sounds like it is going down the exact same path as RE5.

dead space right from the get go has emulated RE4, and all indicators at the moment point to the fact that dead space 2 will emulate RE5, which is what concerns me.

I have aboslutely no doubt it will be a great game - game play wise - but that doesn't mean it will be a great dead space or survival horror game, there are enough 3rd person shooter action games out there ( now including RE series ) we dont need another one, we have gears of war for that, lets keep at least one franchise firmly rooted in survival horror.

I sure do hope I am wrong , because dead space is probably my favorite game of the xbox 360 generation outside of mass effect 2.

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yeah I understand what you mean, but I don't think they are gonna change what made the first game so great. I mean action and survival horror can both be in the same game. I mean why couldn't they? I know I already said this but I think they are trying to make it more action oriented with the hand to hand sequences with Issac beating the shit out of necromorphs which actually was kind of intense and scary at times, but also gave the game some good action gameplay. now imagine if they kept what was so great about the first game, which would of been all the startle moments and flashing lights and sirens when there are necromorphs in a room, and also added a lot more badass hand to hand sequences with the necromorphs. combine that with some new weapons, new enemies, a back story of Issac and maybe a good multiplayer and I think it would be one of the best titles on the 360.... wow, you can probably tell how excited I am about this game. All we have to go on as of right now is a teaser and some online articles but I really hope it turns out to be hella fuckin balls to the wall awesome!!!! they aint takin there time with it for nothin ya know...
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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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I would say Dead Space was much better than RE4 in terms of scare, not to mention running an shooting is awesome. I really don't think the developers of RE5 did anything to push the series forward, and in all honesty, aside from the aspect of co-op was Sheva really necessary? Part of me wonders if things would have different if Shinji Mikami was working on the game.

I really hope the maker of Dead Space don't make the same mistake and actually learn from the first, as they very well should.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:15 pm 
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eh, this game actually might not be bad, Ill be the first admit my worries may have been ill conceived ( especially when earlier in the thread i took the wait and see approach )

I just got done watching http://www.gametrailers.com/video/first ... e-2/100162

I was quite happy to hear him say "I'm not sure why people think we are going in some sort of whacky run and gun direction, thats not the case." , that pretty much put all my fears to rest.

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ZombiesAteMyDog wrote:
"I'm not sure why people think we are going in some sort of whacky run and gun direction, thats not the case."


Probably because in various interviews and articles they said that people complained the first game was too scary so they couldn't play it for prolonged periods of time because they were pussies. So they said they were going to make some changes so it wasn't as scary and focused more on action.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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People are pussies because there was nothing scary about the first one either. So I don't see the issue; this game will be the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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well would you look at that, it turns out it's not going to be another Gears of War clone after all.



relax, it's going to be a great game lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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Wow, people sure do get riled up quick over a single comment made. Really, chill out, watch the gameplay and realize that it's most likely going to be just as good, if not better. Also, I agree that the first wasn't THAT scary. I mean, it had it's moments of creepiness and startling events, but nothing to poop your pants over.

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I will admit that it's looking like I was wrong about the game and it looks like they're keeping the scares, but to be fair their initial comments made it sound like they were moving away from the survival horror aspect that I loved and moving it towards an action shooter. That's why I got pissed as I refer to the original Dead Space as the last great survival horror game. After everything I've seen/read it's looking like their going to keep those aspects and add in some action heavy scenes, which I'm fine with as long as they're not in the majority of the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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Am I the only one who really didn't think the first one was scary at all?

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Am I the only one who really didn't think the first one was scary at all?

ya it wasn't scary for me either. I still loved the environments and the necromorphs.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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Am I the only one who really didn't think the first one was scary at all?

ya it wasn't scary for me either. I still loved the environments and the necromorphs.


Same here. I thought it was a great sci-fi actioner with some spectacular violence, but gore does not automatically equal horror.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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Some of it was scary, mostly the beginning, and then when the "twitchers" showed up simply because they're crazy and quick. With most Survival Horror games, mid-game it stopped being scary.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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I can't wait for this, I really loved the first one and now that there is multiplayer/co-op in the sequel, I'm sold.

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I can't wait for this, I really loved the first one and now that there is multiplayer/co-op in the sequel, I'm sold.



See, this is yet another gripe I have with games nowadays needing to have tacked-on multiplayer. Especially in games which are primarily single player driven. They did it with Bioshock 2, while the multiplayer was alright it was really out of place and was an afterthought. Now they're doing it with Batman and Dead Space, two other games which you play as a character by themself trying to overcome whatever obsticles are in their way and multiplayer/co-op just feel tacked on to me. I'll wait and see and am very excited for both games, just a little worried about that addition.

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I agree that most of the time, that is the case. I like to keep my hopes high though, I think both games could be really fun with a co-op mode, depending on how it's handled. For instance in Dead Space I would be hoping for a lot of split up area's as well as being able to fight together, just becuase I find that a second player makes it a lot less horrifying. With Batman, I could imagine they could implement a really cool co-op fighting mechanic, but I'm not sure how the rest of the game would handle it.

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I can't wait for this, I really loved the first one and now that there is multiplayer/co-op in the sequel, I'm sold.



See, this is yet another gripe I have with games nowadays needing to have tacked-on multiplayer. Especially in games which are primarily single player driven. They did it with Bioshock 2, while the multiplayer was alright it was really out of place and was an afterthought. Now they're doing it with Batman and Dead Space, two other games which you play as a character by themself trying to overcome whatever obsticles are in their way and multiplayer/co-op just feel tacked on to me. I'll wait and see and am very excited for both games, just a little worried about that addition.



I don't know; both Batman and Dead Space can make sense with multiplayer/co-op. In Batman's case you've got a HUGE cast of established characters that can be utilized for multiplayer. In Dead Space's case I could see how now that its a much larger setting there could be more people capable of fighting off the necromorphs. Hell, Isaac had no combat background prior to the first game and he survived on pure luck and intuition.

Besides there's still the single player mode that still looks good.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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the production value on the first game was through the roof and this one will be also. multiplayer is also a nice touch but nothing to get worried about. if you are looking for a good online multiplayer, your first thought wouldn't be dead space 2 and if you are looking for a game with scary aliens and spooky environment, your first thought wouldn't be something like halo. I guess what I am trying to say is that people that buy this game will be buying it for the single player and they will probably give the online a go and I can see dead space 2 having some kind of objective based game type and a horde mode (it has to have a horde mode lol) but I really can't see death match or capture the flag working with this game.

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I guess what I am trying to say is that people that buy this game will be buying it for the single player and they will probably give the online a go and I can see dead space 2 having some kind of objective based game type and a horde mode (it has to have a horde mode lol) but I really can't see death match or capture the flag working with this game.


See, I can see a hoard mode working very well in Dead Space, but deathmatch, capture the flag etc. would feel tacked on like you said. It just doesn't fit the game. As for Batman I can see like co-op challenge rooms or something along the lines of what they did with Uncharted 2: separate non-story co-op missions but I don't want it focused in the main game. I can explain why in the Batman topic if you want to know.

My gripe is that every game nowadays seems to have a multiplayer component thrown into it and I find a lot of them are pointless. In a single-player driven game concentrate your resources on that experience and don't throw on a half-assed multiplayer component that most players will try maybe once or twice and then not bother. But once again we'll see how it turns out.

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