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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:38 am 
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Game Informer had a 10 page cover story on Dead Space 2 not that long ago and the impression that I got from it was that while they are amping up the action the game is going to have ebbs and flows. The setting sounds really cool seeing as how its a huge space station that's laid out like a city with set pieces like churches and schools. The best analogy I can think of is to compare it to the first two films in the Aliens franchise. The first installment was scary because it was the one resourceful character in a relatively small location against the unknown. The sequel expands the scope and becomes more of an action/horror. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't their inspiration in the first place.

The only thing that I think that's going to be weird is that Isaac is going to talk in this one. I'm not against the idea, but it's still just is a weird thought and hopefully they get a good VO actor for the job.

As for the RE5 comparison I think you might be overlooking a huge difference here. The guy behind RE5 was not the same director from RE4. Shinji Mikami directed RE1, its remake, Zero and 4. He also produced 2 - Code Veronica. He left and Capcom gave the title over to Kenichi Ueda. That would be as if Marvel were to replace Bendis just as Siege started with some random writer. It's still Visceral Games working on DS2.

What I will agree with you on though Link is the way EA turned Dead Space into a franchise overnight. The comics were "ehh", the animated film was "ehh" and the Wii railshooter I didn't bother with (but it looks like its coming to the PS3 and 360 along with Planet Cracker). The figures are pretty sweet though :oops:
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But you can't blame Visceral Games for EA pimping out the brand; that's just what publishers do.

The game is about a year away still and we've yet to see any footage on it yet. Not need to dismiss it just because they want to make a few changes.

Ohh and random tidbit I just learned: the first Dead Space story was penned by comic writers; specifically Warren Ellis (who I dig), Rick Remender and Antony Johnson. Let's see if they come back for the sequel.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:52 am 
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Even though I would buy it on the console's. Again this is a jerk move, the PC market's there, yeah there not exclusive's (aside from a few) but PC gaming is still fun with games like Mass Effect, Call of Duty, and Left 4 Dead which is far better on PC!

But, I guess there right when they mentioned it sold bad on PC, I did buy it for PC at first and it does control fairly average, and it's more fun on consoles so fair enough on that part

But if this is because they think the PC market is not worth it
Fuck you EA, fuck you

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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I've always been kind of puzzled as to why someone would buy a game more or less meant for PC at a new price with a new console (assuming the buyer doesn't own either game or console) when you can just as easily play it on PC for a low price (or no price, if you're internet savvy, and most PC players should be).

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I consider 3rd Person shooters more oriented to consoles. Probably because of GoW and RE4.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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Dead space 1 was great. not gonna lie i'm excited for dead space 2!

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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So focusing on action, which could possibly lead to better gameplay is a bad thing now?



How many action shooters are in the market now? What made Dead Space great was the atmosphere. You were alone in a spaceship, surrounded by death and the unknown creaters killing everything and turning them into creatures like them. You weren't a space marine, combat specialist, you were a engineer. That's what I loved about the orginal (and I don't think I'm alone here) and now they're focusing on the action? Doesn't sit well with me and it just sounds like they're trying to cash in on they way over crowded shooter market. Once again, I'll wait until more information is released but this seems like a typical EA dick move to me.


while I agree with ya Black, we will never get that atmosphere again, because you know, Isaac survived the whole ordeal but he cant really be considered a mere engineer now, since he pretty much knows everything now.

itd be hard pressed to find a new area to get trapped in (unless they basically try a RE3 plot), or a new group of people to push him around and bitch at him to do things.

Though I dont like it, Action seems to be the only real way for it to go, but it could still have the horror aspect to it like other actions like Parasite Eve 2, or even RE4 (a whole game of regenerator-like creepy things)

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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why does it have to be Isaac?

they sent Isaac out to destroy a small pocket of necromorph activity, he goes silent / drops off the radar, they send in a new team to investigate and find out where isaac is / what happend to him, and your the ships chef, or pilot or something similar, the shit hits the fan, and its up to you to save your crew, find out where isaac is and find out exactly what happened.

there ya go, deadspace 2, no need to make it "gears of resident evil 5 space" , they could keep it much more like the first game in tone and feel with a few tweaks and improvements here and there.

anyway, heres my guess as to how preproduction for this game went...

guy A : so guys, our game had great atmosphere, lots of tension, and is being lauded as the last true survival horror game.

guy B : resident evil 5 made a stupid amount of money

guy A : I like money !

guy B : me too !

guy A and B at the same time : LETS COPY RESIDENT EVIL 5 AND MAKE LOTS OF MONEY !!!! hur hur hur x_x

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the only saving grace I have with Dead space 2, is they milk the shit out of the 'isaac went insane' bit, throwing in all sorts of weird shit like the first game, and even go further then that. That alone should be scary enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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The debut trailer.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/debut-trailer-dead-space-2/65054

I never played Dead Space but what did they do to this game?

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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there is something wrong with gamers nowadays...

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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So now Tony Stark is apparently designing his new suit :innocentsmile:

Not much, but then again it's just a teaser. Hopefully more comes out at E3, but I still stand by my previous statements.


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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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I don't know what to make of the teaser, because it's basically a teaser and doesn't show much. Still not sold on the game. I'll wait to hear/see more but I'm not looking forward to it.

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gamers today are way to nit pickey I mean..... fuck! I'm sure as long as they stay with the main idea (guy stranded on a space ship fighting alien zombies) and they take their time with it which they are, then it will turn out to be a good game. If they are going to focus a bit more on action then that's fine also. I mean wasn't there already a good amount of action in the first one like how you can melee attack a necromorph and when one of them jumps onto your suit and you can hit "A" to get them off by ripping them apart with your hands? damn that was fucking cool! I'm sure they are focusing on that more than they did on the first game and that's what they mean when they say they will be focusing more on action this time around. I can't wait for this game, and a message to fellow gamers, try not to be another douchey mc nit pick...
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yea were way too nit picky, while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS, and diablo 3 is going to be a flight sim.

this game was the last real survival horror game that was both scary ( horror ) and had you on the ropes all the time ( survival / surviving ) , if they make you another over powered killing machine it will be neither scary nor any real survival , it will almost literally be resident evil 5 in space spiced up with a bit of gears of war for good measure.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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yea were way too nit picky, while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS, and diablo 3 is going to be a flight sim.

this game was the last real survival horror game that was both scary ( horror ) and had you on the ropes all the time ( survival / surviving ) , if they make you another over powered killing machine it will be neither scary nor any real survival , it will almost literally be resident evil 5 in space spiced up with a bit of gears of war for good measure.

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And to that I say look at Resident Evil 4. Its the best selling game of its series, the most critically acclaimed of its series and yet different from what came before. I'm just saying that chances of this game just down right sucking are pretty slim. In the worst case scenario we get a Bioshock 2 scenario: the game is ok, but just doesn't live up to its predecessor; which in all honesty I can live with. But I do hope the game can still be just as scary as the first one.

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 Post subject: Re: Dead Space 2 will be a terrible game
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yea were way too nit picky, while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS, and diablo 3 is going to be a flight sim.

this game was the last real survival horror game that was both scary ( horror ) and had you on the ropes all the time ( survival / surviving ) , if they make you another over powered killing machine it will be neither scary nor any real survival , it will almost literally be resident evil 5 in space spiced up with a bit of gears of war for good measure.

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And to that I say look at Resident Evil 4. Its the best selling game of its series, the most critically acclaimed of its series and yet different from what came before. I'm just saying that chances of this game just down right sucking are pretty slim. In the worst case scenario we get a Bioshock 2 scenario: the game is ok, but just doesn't live up to its predecessor; which in all honesty I can live with. But I do hope the game can still be just as scary as the first one.

what you dont think it will be scary? and all you have is a news article and a teaser trailer about it. hmmmmmm maybe its a bit early to decide if you are gonna like it or not, we still have some times before its released and comparing this to starcraft being made into an fps is way different than whats going on here, im sure it will have a lot of elements from the first game but jsut with a bit more action, im actually looking forward to this game.

EDIT - also I know its a survival horror game but honestly I didnt even startle once. and WHY IS PEOPLE THINKING ITS GONNA CHANGE GENRE COMPLETELY???? what you dont think there can be a survival horror game with lots of action (action being the hand to hand sequences of beating the shit outta necromorphs).

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while were at it lets make starcraft 2 a FPS,


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=485994615432276344#

I just couldn't resist.

And MP I'm with you in that I think its still way to early to cast judgement and that I think the game can still be scary, I'm just trying not to get my hopes up until I see some in game footage.

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Yeah we should see how it turns out first. Adding more action won't necessarily make it a bad game, but I don't it will live up to it's predecessor though.

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guys! I just realized how balls to the wall awesome a Borderlands 2 would be! kinda related kinda not but you gotta agree it would be awesome, it would be the bomb digity!!!!
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GT will still give it 1 Million out of 10.0 and that's still 2 points less than COD4/MW2


Most reviewers will do the same. They did it with RE5.

I think MOST reviewers nowadays are fucking clueless. But not in the "they have no taste" sense, I'm talking more in the "Let's have Dan, a guy who has never played ANY Resident Evil game, review RE5." SURPRISE! Perfect score! 10/10 on the Story!

Meanwhile, any person who has played at least one or two of the main RE titles is probably ripping their own ears and eyes out of their body because of that Story.



Do you realise what you just said? Why do you have to have someone who has played every game in the series to decide if it is good, can games not stand on their own anymore, or does everything have to be compared to memories?

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