Who is Kira?

Mongo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:11 pm

Axel wrote:

Mongo Think about it, Kira cannot force another person to murder another, and the fact that nomad was dismembered and the use of chloroform can still me smelled, means it was likely a kira supporter killed Nomad, The Reason being, I have no idea, as he did say spilling blood is needed for the new world, which makes him an odd target by a kira supporter.

However, What if he attempted to kill gunfanic? Kira cannot be killed by normal means, and it was shown he could wind up dead upon attacking kira by a supporter? This could actually point more in the direction of gunfanic since I did too believe he was a kira supporter.

So Case in Point, I think we have strong evidence pointing at Gunfanic.

Quick Edit: In thinking more about it, It does make sense that yes Nomad was heading to Canada to kill kira, Which I believe to believe to be Gunfanic, and thus he was stopped in Michigan by an angry kira supporter and was killed. I say we have enough information to lock him up, But if L can hear me, I want us to wait for the 5th Kill, that being said, the reason why is hopefully L Can lock up snake91 or Heartofsorrow. Both of them may have been touched by kira and be the second one. Though there is also a chance that he didnt choose a second kira, this would be by far the safest route.

If you are suggesting that there are 2 Kira's already? If so then I can go along with the fact that nomad might not have been killed by the 1st kira due to your logic. Both the other kills as you said didn't have anyone else killing them - they killed themselves or in the 1st case provoked canadian police officers or mounties I guess to kill him, but yeah in the rules of the death note you can't force another player to kill each other.

Axel · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:13 pm

Mongo wrote:

Axel wrote:

Mongo Think about it, Kira cannot force another person to murder another, and the fact that nomad was dismembered and the use of chloroform can still me smelled, means it was likely a kira supporter killed Nomad, The Reason being, I have no idea, as he did say spilling blood is needed for the new world, which makes him an odd target by a kira supporter.

However, What if he attempted to kill gunfanic? Kira cannot be killed by normal means, and it was shown he could wind up dead upon attacking kira by a supporter? This could actually point more in the direction of gunfanic since I did too believe he was a kira supporter.

So Case in Point, I think we have strong evidence pointing at Gunfanic.

Quick Edit: In thinking more about it, It does make sense that yes Nomad was heading to Canada to kill kira, Which I believe to believe to be Gunfanic, and thus he was stopped in Michigan by an angry kira supporter and was killed. I say we have enough information to lock him up, But if L can hear me, I want us to wait for the 5th Kill, that being said, the reason why is hopefully L Can lock up snake91 or Heartofsorrow. Both of them may have been touched by kira and be the second one. Though there is also a chance that he didnt choose a second kira, this would be by far the safest route.

If you are suggesting that there are 2 Kira's already? If so then I can go along with the fact that nomad might not have been killed by the 1st kira due to your logic. Both the other kills as you said didn't have anyone else killing them - they killed themselves or in the 1st case provoked canadian police officers or mounties I guess to kill him, but yeah in the rules of the death note you can't force another player to kill each other.

How I would think if I was in shoes yes, The Minute someone already had evidence greatly against me, I would choose a second kira right away, to throw suspicion off of me.

Mongo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:19 pm

Axel wrote:

Mongo wrote:

Axel wrote:

Mongo Think about it, Kira cannot force another person to murder another, and the fact that nomad was dismembered and the use of chloroform can still me smelled, means it was likely a kira supporter killed Nomad, The Reason being, I have no idea, as he did say spilling blood is needed for the new world, which makes him an odd target by a kira supporter.

However, What if he attempted to kill gunfanic? Kira cannot be killed by normal means, and it was shown he could wind up dead upon attacking kira by a supporter? This could actually point more in the direction of gunfanic since I did too believe he was a kira supporter.

So Case in Point, I think we have strong evidence pointing at Gunfanic.

Quick Edit: In thinking more about it, It does make sense that yes Nomad was heading to Canada to kill kira, Which I believe to believe to be Gunfanic, and thus he was stopped in Michigan by an angry kira supporter and was killed. I say we have enough information to lock him up, But if L can hear me, I want us to wait for the 5th Kill, that being said, the reason why is hopefully L Can lock up snake91 or Heartofsorrow. Both of them may have been touched by kira and be the second one. Though there is also a chance that he didnt choose a second kira, this would be by far the safest route.

If you are suggesting that there are 2 Kira's already? If so then I can go along with the fact that nomad might not have been killed by the 1st kira due to your logic. Both the other kills as you said didn't have anyone else killing them - they killed themselves or in the 1st case provoked canadian police officers or mounties I guess to kill him, but yeah in the rules of the death note you can't force another player to kill each other.

How I would think if I was in shoes yes, The Minute someone already had evidence greatly against me, I would choose a second kira right away, to throw suspicion off of me.

Very true. I don't think that we can dismiss the death of nomad so easily. nomad died pretty much right after he made his comment.

mscupcakes · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:33 pm

Is it possible that someone on the investigation team is Kira?

Mashere · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:38 pm

snake91 wrote:

Is it possible that someone on the investigation team is Kira?

Maybe.

HeartOfSorrow · **Posted:** Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:20 pm

Axel wrote:

Mongo Think about it, Kira cannot force another person to murder another, and the fact that nomad was dismembered and the use of chloroform can still me smelled, means it was likely a kira supporter killed Nomad, The Reason being, I have no idea, as he did say spilling blood is needed for the new world, which makes him an odd target by a kira supporter.

However, What if he attempted to kill gunfanic? Kira cannot be killed by normal means, and it was shown he could wind up dead upon attacking kira by a supporter? This could actually point more in the direction of gunfanic since I did too believe he was a kira supporter.

So Case in Point, I think we have strong evidence pointing at Gunfanic.

Quick Edit: In thinking more about it, It does make sense that yes Nomad was heading to Canada to kill kira, Which I believe to believe to be Gunfanic, and thus he was stopped in Michigan by an angry kira supporter and was killed. I say we have enough information to lock him up, But if L can hear me, I want us to wait for the 5th Kill, that being said, the reason why is hopefully L Can lock up snake91 or Heartofsorrow. Both of them may have been touched by kira and be the second one. Though there is also a chance that he didnt choose a second kira, this would be by far the safest route.

Ok I can understand you thinking I might be a second Kira because after all I am a civilian and possible Kira supporter but body dismemberment? If it was me I would make it obvious by having nomad's chest open and his heart missing like I said in the "I'm so mean I scare myself" thread. Besides I think you are just adding my name into the mix because I have voiced my suspicions about you.

Sollah · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:34 am

It's obviously a Kira supporter who killed nomad, because Kira wouldn't need chloroform to kill or dismember someone. And HeartofSorrow, that's a very exact excuse you have there. And, despite what you say, wouldn't you not want to make it so obvious it was you? I mean, it is a murder, after all. Not many people like being accused of that, even you, as you've just proven by defending yourself.

Still, I wouldn't say it's Gunfanic. The evidence is just too perfect.

snake91 wrote:

GamerChris wrote:

Gunfanic seems the most likely suspect. Maybe too likely though...I say we wait a little longer.

the longer you wait, the more people die!
why would you make such a decision? unless... You're a Kira supporter!

Why make such an awkward claim, considering GamerChris is on the investigation team? I don't think Investigation Team members can support Kira.

mscupcakes · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:20 pm

Sollah wrote:

It's obviously a Kira supporter who killed nomad, because Kira wouldn't need chloroform to kill or dismember someone. And HeartofSorrow, that's a very exact excuse you have there. And, despite what you say, wouldn't you not want to make it so obvious it was you? I mean, it is a murder, after all. Not many people like being accused of that, even you, as you've just proven by defending yourself.

Still, I wouldn't say it's Gunfanic. The evidence is just too perfect.

snake91 wrote:

GamerChris wrote:

Gunfanic seems the most likely suspect. Maybe too likely though...I say we wait a little longer.

the longer you wait, the more people die!
why would you make such a decision? unless... You're a Kira supporter!

Why make such an awkward claim, considering GamerChris is on the investigation team? I don't think Investigation Team members can support Kira.

If it's in the rules that investigation members can be secretly supporting Kira, then I retract my claims. If no rule exists, my statement stands

Rapture · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:31 pm

Luigithehomie1991 has been found dead in the streets of Chicago due to respiratory failure.

Autopsy reveals that he had ingested a copious amount of the Jack O Lantern mushroom, possibly included in his spaghetti dinner which he had before his death.

Rapture · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Clumsy Johan has been found hanging in a closet in a motel in Vankleek Hill, Ottawa at 4 PM. In his pocket was a letter that read the following:

There is a 2nd Kira.
Do not follow him.
Only follow me and my world.
Follow the clues and you will know which Kira is which.

Mashere · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:15 pm

Rapture wrote:

Clumsy Johan has been found hanging in a closet in a motel in Vankleek Hill, Ottawa at 4 PM. In his pocket was a letter that read the following:

There is a 2nd Kira.
Do not follow him.
Only follow me and my world.
Follow the clues and you will know which Kira is which.

Well,this complicates things a bit.

HeartOfSorrow · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:24 pm

Well Clumsy Johan is the 5th death. Who will L choose to throw in lock up?

Mongo · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:36 pm

I'm wondering who L is going to choose too, I mean we've had our thoughts about certain individuals. I guess it's just up to L to decide what's what now.

Gunfanic · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:45 pm

Rapture wrote:

Clumsy Johan has been found hanging in a closet in a motel in Vankleek Hill, Ottawa at 4 PM. In his pocket was a letter that read the following:

There is a 2nd Kira.
Do not follow him.
Only follow me and my world.
Follow the clues and you will know which Kira is which.

Hmmmm..... what could that mean?

Mashere · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:50 pm

Gunfanic wrote:

Rapture wrote:

Clumsy Johan has been found hanging in a closet in a motel in Vankleek Hill, Ottawa at 4 PM. In his pocket was a letter that read the following:

There is a 2nd Kira.
Do not follow him.
Only follow me and my world.
Follow the clues and you will know which Kira is which.

Hmmmm..... what could that mean?

Maybe Clumsy Johan knew who the 2nd Kira is and was killed because of that.

Axel · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:44 am

Gunfanic isnt Kira. His writing doesnt match up with that of the note, its to neat and orderly, We are looking for someone older, probably about 20s-30s.

Mongo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:04 am

Axel wrote:

Gunfanic isnt Kira. His writing doesnt match up with that of the note, its to neat and orderly, We are looking for someone older, probably about 20s-30s.

but is there a possibility that Gunfanic is the 2nd kira? if the note is just a diversion and the 1st/2nd kiras are actually working together, then Gunfanic might have killed nomad and luigi.

also, can anyone in canada confirm that these places are actual places? like, im just wondering if kira is making up places in canada or has actual knowledge

Axel · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:05 am

Mongo wrote:

Axel wrote:

Gunfanic isnt Kira. His writing doesnt match up with that of the note, its to neat and orderly, We are looking for someone older, probably about 20s-30s.

but is there a possibility that Gunfanic is the 2nd kira? if the note is just a diversion and the 1st/2nd kiras are actually working together, then Gunfanic might have killed nomad and luigi

They cant kill on the same day. and those people were murdered.

Mongo · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:09 am

Axel wrote:

Mongo wrote:

Axel wrote:

Gunfanic isnt Kira. His writing doesnt match up with that of the note, its to neat and orderly, We are looking for someone older, probably about 20s-30s.

but is there a possibility that Gunfanic is the 2nd kira? if the note is just a diversion and the 1st/2nd kiras are actually working together, then Gunfanic might have killed nomad and luigi

They cant kill on the same day. and those people were murdered.

oh they cant? both of these deaths happened today. did one of the kiras have to kill in advance then like write up a way for it to happen to happen at a later date? sorry if that sounds confusing, im trying to piece all these clues together.

HeartOfSorrow · **Posted:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:11 am

Axel wrote:

Mongo wrote:

Axel wrote:

Gunfanic isnt Kira. His writing doesnt match up with that of the note, its to neat and orderly, We are looking for someone older, probably about 20s-30s.

but is there a possibility that Gunfanic is the 2nd kira? if the note is just a diversion and the 1st/2nd kiras are actually working together, then Gunfanic might have killed nomad and luigi

They cant kill on the same day. and those people were murdered.

Well at least Luigi was. Nomad is still up for debate. Besides what do you call a death by abnormal means?

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