I've been wanting to make this thread for a while now just to see what people on the forums think about weed and people who smoke weed. And if indeed there are people here that smoke weed.

I've been smoking weed for a little while now and when first going in to it I was kind of hesitant because of all the statements made against the stuff. And I want to state that it was not peer pressure. My friends have been smoking for longer than me, but the choise was mine. If anything made me want to smoke more it would have been the media, the kind of bands I listen to and the kind of movies I watch.

So when I first got high, it was like being drunk but only not so confusing. I ate a can of tuna with some chocolate on the side and then I listened to "Lullabies to Paralyze" and fell asleep. In the morning I had no hangover and I wasn't even that groggy.
This made me think about why it's illegal. It's true that when you're high, you're not the smartest person ever and that the sofa seems impossible to get up from, but that is not all that dangerous. You can't overdose on the stuff and like Katt Williams said the only side-effects are "Hungry, Happy, Sleepy"

I understand the arguement that people don't want to have high dudes driving cars, because that scenario scares even me. But if there is a fast detection method for weed (like the breathalyzer for alcohol) I don't see how even that could be a very big problem.


I'm sure I left something out, but here's a link to an intresting document on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljs5YuQ4mPk&feature=channel_page

Smoking weed and driving isn't all that challenging. Being high is not at all like being drunk and there's very little impairment while you're stoned. A lot of the times I've been the most high in my life I was driving around smoking weed and never had any troubles with it. If anything it makes you more aware of your surroundings and it always makes me drive a little slower.

There's a lot of anti-weed propaganda around and it all sounds pretty convincing until you actually smoke weed and realize it's all bullshit. The biggest point everyone loves to bring up is that it kills brain cells, while this is true so does drinking and even if you bump your head you kill brain cells. But your brain is regenerates these cells so the very little amount of cells you lose is insignificant.

Ive smoked my fair share of weed in the past. I dont do it anymore because I just dont like the way it makes me feel. Honestly I didnt smoke that much weed and smoked hash more. For those who dont know hash is essentially a black brownie like consistancy substance that is dirived by removing the THC and such from the weed plant. So instead of just smoking the bud you can 'wash' the weed and get the THC from all over like the stems and the leaf etc. Its not more condenced or anything, just less stuff to throw away I guess.

Growing up in Canada in a rural area, weed was everywhere. Smart city people thought that by running out to the country to plant their weed and coming back to harvest it would be a great idea. Well us country bumpkins are not retarded and we would find them randomly and take them and smoke them.

Ive never seen any negative consequences from the actual act of smoking, eating or drinking weed in any way. The worst I saw was a guy threw up once because he was very nervous because he had never done it before, but after throwing up we ate some food and played some games and thats it.

The most hazardous part of smoking weed is the actual smoking part. There are chemicals and the smoke that are not too good for your lungs. Now its not nearly as bad as cigarettes by any standards, but the smoking of it isnt good in general. Thats why at the end I reverted to a vapourizer known as 'The Volcano'. It essentially cooks off the THC from the weed and turns it into a vapour. From there it collects in a bag ontop of the unit. You remove the bag that has a little valve on it and its like sucking the helium out of a balloon. No smoke to get into your lungs, just the THC vapour.

Now Im not saying smoking weed is good. I know people who are hooked on it. I know people who get upset and angry when they cant get it. I know people who use it as a pain killer type substance. When they feel any pain or just feel pain could come its essential for them to get weed. You may not be able to technically get addicted to weed, but phycologically I know that you can. People convince themselves they cant function without it and it makes their lives shit because sometimes they cant find it and they feel misrable until they can find more weed.

If you smoke weed, I dont care. Ive done it, but I just dont like the way it makes me feel anymore. I just get really tired and kinda feel nautious. Also I think that when on weed if something serious happens to your body like a stroke or heart attack or something like that your ability to notice the warning signs are severely dulled and delayed. Ive seen people injure themselves badly and not think much of it because they were high. Being high didnt cause the injury however. For example a buddy of mine was walking through his house and his friend went to close the door from the patio to the house just as my friend went through. Long story short he severed his pinky toe to the point where it was hanging on by skin and didnt notice even after having walked on it a bunch of times from it folding under his foot. It can definately dull your sences and I wouldnt get in the car with someone who smoked weed.

So ya thats it. I live in Canada so I can answer anyones questions regarding it LOL.

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Im also going to add this. If you are curious about smoking weed Im going to give a little bit of advice.

If you want to smoke weed do it with one or two close friends. The reason for this is if youve never been high before you might not know what to expect and you can feel very out of place and confused with how you feel, causing you to be paranoid and panicky. Being with a friend or 2 friends allows you to just sit back and chill and focus on the situation easy instead of at a party or club or something where so much is going on. It can really overwhelm the sences until you are used to it.

Also being with a few close friends things seem a hell of a lot funnier. I never was one to smoke weed while out at a party or anything. Just too much going on to enjoy. Being with friends you can talk and laugh and just relax.

Also do it with friends you are very comfortable with. You dont want to make an ass of yourself or do something stupid and then have your friends be like "Remember when Jeff was talking about how he doesnt mind the smell of other people's farts for like an hour?" and tell that to everyone becuase you said something when you were high.

Also dont cook when you are high. If you think youre going to get the munchies, which about 75% of people do, get a bunch of snacks before hand and use them. Dont cook its not a good idea. Also get a lot of drinks. Sunny D and stuff like that work the best. You will get pasties where your mouth feels like its dry as hell and it will be. Sunny D, Gatorade, Poweraide etc work great for those situations. Just drink in moderation because your mouth will still feel dry and drinking too much sugary stuff can make you just as sick as you were when you overdosed on Haloween candy.

Also if you dont want to smoke it because you dont want to cough or hurt your lungs, look into a vapourizer. They can run anywhere from $80 - $2000 depending on the one you get, but are a worthy investment. They dont create smoke like a joint or a bong does, so the smell is minimal. Also another tip is if you are smoking and dont want others to smell it, get a toilet paper roll, some dryer sheets and stuff those into the roll. When you exhale from smoking blow the smoke through the tube and out the other end it will smell like a flowery meadow instead of stanky weed. Also buy a bottle of visine for red eyes, just incase you need to go somewhere or someone shows up you dont want to know youve been smoking. A drop in each eye and your red eyes go away. Your eyes will seem glossed over, explaining that you have been having sneezing attacks all night long usually covers this problem.

You can also cook it in brownies or muffins or pancakes or something like that. However I think it tastes like shit so do what you want.

The most important thing is to be safe. Dont drive, go to work, or do stupid stuff when youre high. You are not going to be out of it to the point where you make stupid decisions, no matter what someone tells you or tries to convince you.

Just be smart. If you want to experiment thats cool, just be smart about it, plan before hand and pay attention to how it makes you feel.

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That's pretty much it right there. If you ever try a drug for the first time, always do it in a controlled environment. It's always better to know that even if you trip balls, the worst thing that could happen is you end up curled up on somebodies couch wrapped up in blankets while the high passes. Chronic usually won't put you that far, but I've seen some crazy shit happen to people when they smoke.

Anyways, on to the weed topic. I smoke. Way less then I used to because I have way more responsibilities now. Not that getting stoned makes me forget my responsibilities, it's more due to the fact that I don't have the time. Back in the day when I worked fast food or retail I loved getting off of work, picking up taco bell, getting ripped and playing video games. There was a group of this that did this all the time. It would be a twice weekly ritual, usually Wednesdays and Saturdays. The weed was plentiful because we all put in on it, and our dealer would actually come through my drive through and hand me a sack inside a sack (weed sack inside a fast food bag). I'd hand him some free eats with the money in the bag and it'd be on. That was probably the best set up I'd ever seen.

For me, weed is fun. But like Link said, anything taken to extremes is bad. Myself, I've cut back to maybe, MAYBE, 3 times a year now. Thankfully, I've never had any sort of additive personality so it's not like I start to twitch. Now, it's fun when I can squeeze it in but I don't sit here and think about my next fix.

Also, I'm a firm believer that anything you put in your body that causes a chemical alteration, I'm talking anything from weed to coffee to asprin can have negative consequences. But I also believe that depending on your lifestyle, they are consequences that you can counter act through other healthy choices...exercise, proper nutrition, etc.

Anyways, more power to anyone who tokes.

BTW, Phil, if you are reading this, the first time we played Left 4 Dead I was stoned out of my gourd. That's why we played a whole campaign and I barely said a word.

I had grown up around weed but did not try it until two years ago (I'm 24 now). Initially I was opposed to it from all of the anti drug stuff and out of fear of my parents finding out. But once I got into college I started realizing that there was a lot of things out there that are far more dangerous to an individual that weed: alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine, and countless prescriptions and over the counter medication. So I figured "what the hell" and tried it out for myself. At first I was a little disappointed because the first 5 times I smoked it had absolutely no affect on me. Each time I smoked with my best friend who has been smoking for a while and each time I'd be fine and he was baked. It wasn't until the sixth time that I finally got stoned and I've got to say, it beats the shit out of alcohol any day of the week.

I tend to smoke anywhere from 1 to 3 times a week, sometimes even going a month without smoking. I know that there are plenty of people who can't go a day without it but I don't ever see myself reaching that point. I tend to smoke with at least one other person because smoking alone just doesn't sound like fun. In the time I've been smoking I've tried it in joints, blunts, pipes and bongs and I have to say nothing compares to hitting the bong because its such a clean high with little to no coughing.

As for the "weed leads to other drugs" I won't argue that point, but I just want to point out that for the most part those who do go onto harder drugs tend to do so because they have addiction problems to begin with. It's the exact same scenario with alcoholics. Some people just don't know where to draw the line. As for me, I just recently tried salvia but that's probably where I'm going to draw the line for myself. It's definitely NOT the kind of thing I would ever develop a habit for but something I would try once in a blue. Plus the fact that its still totally legal here is a nice bonus

Lastly if you are going to try it, don't just do it to look cool. This is the main reason why I waited until I got to college because by that point I already had made all of the friends I really wanted in life and I wasn't out to try and impress anyone. I'm all for people experimenting with it and if it isn't for you that's totally fine too. But its never going to get you laid.... Unless you're selling

On a side note: here's a link to the whole documentary from the clip Fyodoror posted:
http://blip.tv/file/1356143/
It's a full length feature (like 1.5 hours) but so worth watching for those interested in seeing how both the US and Canada deal with their marijuana policies.

Just some words of wisdom.

If you're hesitant about smoking and someone suggests you eat it for the first time DON'T! Eating weed will give you a serious high and if you don't know what to expect it can be overwhelming. I smoked weed for years before I ate it and didn't expect much but I got super fuckin' high after making a batch of brownies with some low to mediocre grade weed.

If you're going to drive or even take weed somewhere take joints. While glass pieces are cool to chill with don't travel with them. If you happen to get pulled over and for some reason the cop decides to search your car (it happend to me) you won't have paraphenalia and you can just eat the joints or shove them in your air vents. To make a long story short I got caught with weed outside of Pittsburgh because a police officer saw a Pitt ID that wasn't mine that I used to get into the Pitt football games and that gave him the right to search my car. He took my stash and my bowl Barbara (named after Barbara from Night of the Living Dead) and I ended up having to go to court and shit but in that process found out that in Pennsylvania it's a bigger offense to have paraphenalia then to have a small amount of weed. Different states and countries probably have different laws but it's not worth taking the chance.

Like CRX Forum said stay hydrated. I get pretty bad cotton mouth so I always get a bottle of water or a pack of gum and that will tide me over.

Try and buy off of people you know. While you may buy off of random dealers at least the people you know have tried it and know they are getting good shit.

Don't trust random dealers either. After a while you'll be able to get a feel for different dealers and know who to trust but I've gotten ripped off in the past and have friends who have gotten ripped off as well. I had 2 friends who knew this dealer they worked with and were buying weed off of him for a couple months, they pooled their money together to get $200 worth of weed. The guy took them to a house and took there money while the waited in the car. The guy pretty much walked into the house and out the back door robbing them of their money.

I was worried about the whole sitting on the sofa, eating junk food and doing nothing scenario. But then one day not too long ago, I smoked a bowl and went for a hike in the woods and I gotta tell you, it was awesome. I didn't even think about eating anything, I was too busy just marvelling at the beauty of nature.

There are times that I just lay around play videogames and watch movies high, but the thing is that I was propably gonna do that anyway, weed just made it that much more fun and relaxing. I don't think that weed takes away from my doing something usefull or creative or healthy, because I don't smoke that often and when I do it's because I don't want to do anything too demanding and just chill.
And I never let my smoking affect my work. I have no driving need to smoke, so I never smoke on weekdays because I know that if I do, I might end up zoning the whole day at work.

If you are doing something that requires some physical activity, you, well I, usually don't get the munchies. Something about the increased heart rate, blood flow, and adrenaline suppressed my appetite.

One food I found the best while ripped though is fresh fruit. It's SO freaking good.

Look at my rank... look at it... it's awesome!


So anyway, CRXForum's post reminded me of a story a canadian guy told me in the FDF. The guy was canadian, but I think his dad was finnish and he was given a choice to either do his time in the FDF or just stay in canada and forget about it. For some reason he chose to come, he barely knew any finnish, but he got free flights back and forth for as long as his training took.

So one day our entire team of three squads was having a nice sauna evening in the middle of a combat exercise (to boost morale) and this guy starts telling this story, half in english and half in finnish about how he works as a forest ranger in B.C and one day while walking somewhere with his buddy he discovered a secret growspot, and rather than reporting it to the authorities, he and his buddy just took all they could carry without it being detected and spent the next couple of months high as motherfuckers.
I didn't belive his story, but now it's starting to look like he could have been telling the truth.

448 plants. Thats the most Ive seen from someone stumbling on someone's secret grow area back along the edges of a corn field and in 2 ditches that run up and down the 2 sides of it. Nicely hidden from the police planes due to tree cover and weeds in the ditches.

I was told there was easily another 500 plants there, never went to check it out however. Then about a week later heard of a guy that we knew who was in the hospital. He went to go and check it out after he heard about the remaining plants and got beaten within an inch of his life with a wooden plank and had his face stomped breaking almost every bone in his face, by the person who's grow op is was. They only stopped because they thought he was dead. You have to be careful since most of those operations are run by the Hell's Angels or the Russian Mafia in my area.

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ffffffffffffffffffffffuck

They should make a PSA about that.

edit. oh man I screwed up my rank, but I had to reply to that.

Never tried weed myself, probably never will either. Doesn't really strike me as anything more than a big waste of money.
With that said I really don't give a damn if everyone else wants to be high as a kite 24/7, though and I wish the government would stop wasting my money on you.
Well, by you I obviously mean none of you since not one of you is Swedish. So..yeah.

Lol It's ok

I've had spacecakes once, and I did not know what to expect.

The thing was that I wasn't planning on smoking, just plain old hoochin'. But I had a brownie and didn't feel it at all, so I just started drinking. Fast forward 2 hours and I'm fucked up. I threw up from the sheer disorientation of being drunk and the effects of the spacecakes combined.

Come to think of it, I don't know anyone who's had a good first experience with weed food.

I can admit that I smoke weed and there is nothing wrong with it. It's the safest drug out there. I'm very responsible when I do it, I don't bring it into my home and I don't act like a jackass when I'm high. Ummmmm....... The only bad things I can think of it is that it's illegal and it can make you forget small things. The only other drug I have done is mushrooms and it's not that bad either. The only danger is mistaking it for poisonous mushrooms and the possibility of getting run over by a car when you hallucinate. These are the only two safe drugs because they are natural and not man made.

From what I've read, psilocybin and psilocin might not have a toxicity risk, but they can cause mental anomalies similar to LSD, such as flashbacks.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_health1.pdf

Here's a copy of a risk assessment of Mushrooms. Not exactly an adequate source for debate but hey I'm lazy

You only get bad memories or nightmares if you have a bad trip while on mushrooms. You can avoid a bad trip by being inside with your friends or being at any place where you are comfortable. Also, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FULL STOMACH BEFORE YOU DO MUSHROOMS!!!!!!! If you don't you will have a bad trip.