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what ways have you thought about extending your lives?
Whether from Robotics to cloning to medicine there are many hypothetical ways of extending lives in theory.

In what ways do you see that you feel is the most probable?

Personally to me, I feel the idea of transferring the information spinning around your brain and converting it into Binary data for a computer to read, then putting that Computer into a robotic frame to be a more permanent solution.

What about you all?

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There isnt a way. I believe Eventually your brain will decay. A computer disc with all of your memories, everything about you, isnt you, its just a copy. Same with clones. There seems no real way to extend life.

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There isnt a way. I believe Eventually your brain will decay. A computer disc with all of your memories, everything about you, isnt you, its just a copy. Same with clones. There seems no real way to extend life.

Your right about that, but i meant extending your life, by transfering your life from x to x or medicine to stop the process of the cells dying and stuff like that, I am sorry I shoulda worded it better.

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Well.. I suppose the advances in medicine can help extend your lifetime a tiny bit.. but if you mean another 100 or so years then I dunno..
Maybe become like Robocop, but not fight crime

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Well.. I suppose the advances in medicine can help extend your lifetime a tiny bit.. but if you mean another 100 or so years then I dunno..
Maybe become like Robocop, but not fight crime

See what I was thinking was like was of either making you live longer or ways to keep your brain/memories/personality going

In my opinion the idea of transfering your memories/personality into a computerized system will give your "brain" (albeit a pseudo-form of your former organic version) a chance to injest more of the world, as time goes on, yes you will have to move the brain into a new system to keep working but it could make you live...as long as you can transfer data.

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Well.. I suppose the advances in medicine can help extend your lifetime a tiny bit.. but if you mean another 100 or so years then I dunno..
Maybe become like Robocop, but not fight crime

See what I was thinking was like was of either making you live longer or ways to keep your brain/memories/personality going

In my opinion the idea of transfering your memories/personality into a computerized system will give your "brain" (albeit a pseudo-form of your former organic version) a chance to injest more of the world, as time goes on, yes you will have to move the brain into a new system to keep working but it could make you live...as long as you can transfer data.

I suppose, but that'd mean you'd need somebody to maintain all your functions at all times :shock: .. Transfering the data is another problem, you dont know what effect that could have on your personality, you could go completely insane and turn into a crazy virus or something

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Well.. I suppose the advances in medicine can help extend your lifetime a tiny bit.. but if you mean another 100 or so years then I dunno..
Maybe become like Robocop, but not fight crime

See what I was thinking was like was of either making you live longer or ways to keep your brain/memories/personality going

In my opinion the idea of transfering your memories/personality into a computerized system will give your "brain" (albeit a pseudo-form of your former organic version) a chance to injest more of the world, as time goes on, yes you will have to move the brain into a new system to keep working but it could make you live...as long as you can transfer data.

I suppose, but that'd mean you'd need somebody to maintain all your functions at all times :shock: .. Transfering the data is another problem, you dont know what effect that could have on your personality, you could go completely insane and turn into a crazy virus or something

That'd still be pretty kickass <3

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I saw some neat research that's going on to do 3D printing using stemcells to produce organs on the fly for people who need them based on their DNA (no rejection and no donor list needed).

There's also some research going into cell rejuvenation. According to the researcher, it appears that when a cell dies off it's rather arbitrary rather than due to decay or something like that and tricking it could make it replenish it self instead of dying. The overall effect being, if all your cells live longer, things decay slower. Considering it's a scalar value, if you doubled the life span of all your cells, your organics should have double the natural life span as well.

There's other non-organic cool stuff going on. I can't remember her name, but there's a computer scientist who is doing research with some medical type folks and trying to talk to patients by connecting a computer to their head. That was successful. It's really bizarre, but apparently they were talking to a coma patient through text.

What is able to be done with the brain is really untapped, it'll pretty much stay that way for a long time, though. Most countries don't condone human testing in that manner. I remember, though, seeing a patient who got implants that bypassed his optic nerve (he is unnaturally blind). That was in Wired almost ten years ago, actually. The applications of that type of research is immeasurable.

I think, personally, the organic options would probably be the way to go. I'm not too keen, personally, on merging with tech that would be connected to other tech, for example. While someone's not going to be able to, say, hack your head, it doesn't mean you wont be aware of such noise. (Again, there's been researching in sending new electrical signals to the brain for new types of sensory input. And again, it was successful)

I'd like to point out that neural networks (i.e. your brain) are ridiculously complicated as far as tracing data goes. I wouldn't count on being able to download yourself any time in the near future.

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Still an interesting idea

we could be living in a world similar to shadowrun (the tabletop rpg not the 360 or SNES gmaes)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrada

Tardigrade aka Water Bears have been able to survive in open space for 10 days, that's no air, extremely low pressure, and Radiation levels 4000 times that which would effect a human negatively. They also seem to be able to reconstruct and repair the DNA that get's damaged by said radiation. Some of the Water Bears that were exposed to space for 10 days were able to reproduce when they got back to earth. The other interesting thing is that when they run out of fuel to live (Oxygen, or more specifically, oxygenated water) their bodies go into a stasis that can sustain them for an extremely long time. When they are placed back into oxygenated water, they come out of stasis completely unharmed. This is how they survice space.

If we could adapt the genetic reconstructive behaviours of the Water Bears to medicine, we could increase our life spans exponentially,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resveratrol

There’s also resveratrol which might be adapted to lengthen life, clean and repair cells and prevent disease, provided we can make it work on humans.


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