Not all gay people are feminine/camp. I accept that a lot of gay people are this way, but you can't seriously say to me that all gay people are completely in your face and annoying. Oh, and you're one of those people who seems to think gay people have sex on their mind all the time. Just because he's gay doesn't mean there's a risk of him looking at your ass. Now, don't take this as an insult, but you come across as quite homophobic to me. That's just my view.

Now to get back on topic, I find it disgusting that people think they have a right to stop two people who love each other from getting married. I mean come on... I just don't get what they think is wrong with it.

I'm kinda undecided on gay adoption. Yes, the kid will get teased for having same sex parents, but if the government makes homosexuality more acceptable (e.g. teaching kids about gay people from a young age, explaining that it's perfectly natural) then this will be less likely. IMO the kids who'd tease kids who have gay parents might just be a product of a homophobic society.

I was thinking the same thing. Sometimes I get the feeling that some people search through the bible for something to support their own agenda. If they can't find it, they make it poof into existence by blaming it on a mistranslation. And as pointed out, the whole picking and choosing what to regard as truths and what not just doesn't sit right with me. Are some "laws" more sacred than other, and if they are, who decides which ones we are to take seriously and which to ignore?

hmmm...since we are all created in the image of god, then the church shouldn't be against homosexuality.

What does the Imago dei have to do with this topic?

just to simplify my feelings on gay marriage. i'm all for it. most church goers aren't.

most marriages are supposed to be some sort of holy union. but what if that union is "unholy" to some?

Oh, like a woman might feel around perverted guys. Like me.

Also, that's not truly gay, that's just being an annoying fuck. If you ask me, that gives you leave to smack them across the head.


And why is that? Protip: These are the components for good parenting: providing for the children, planting good ideas in there head like theft and murder are bad and, biggest of all, unconditional love. Finally, the picture thing is bullshit flat-out.

Wow. That was the sanest thing I've ever heard you say, Dalorei.

And I completely agree with you.

Capt. Monday, if you can provide evidence that gay parents produce developmentally challenged kids then by all means. But the fact of the matter is the opposite. Studies have shown that kids coming from gay parents aren't any different from kids coming from hetero parents. Love is equally given and a foundation of what is right and wrong is supplied.

Yeah, isn't that ironic ey?

It's turned that way as I'm sick of people using religion to justify their bigotry; just fucking man up and admit you're a homophobe but don't blame some 2000 year old writings for your views.

I beg to differ.

Let me tell you a little story.

My Aunt is a crack whore. Sure, she had a tough life, but its hard not to view her this way when she has 4 kids, all with different fathers, and has struggled with illegal substance addiction for almost 20 years.

Its a sad situation, to say the very least.

But on to her kids. There are Brian, Michael, Eileen, and Felichia. Brian is a very angry man. He may be very smart, but he is a generally misanthropic guy. Think Gregory House from House M.D., but accually worse. It has kept him from getting a job, respect, and the list goes on. He is currently unemployed and living off welfare.

Next, there is Eileen. She lived with my family for 3 years after her guardian kicked her out of the house. We did the same after she totalled my mother's car driving drunk. She then ran off and got pregnant. At age 17.

Then there is Felicia, who lives with Eileen, taking care of the baby.

But then there is Michael. After his mother, my aunt, lost custody of her children, he moved in with two elderly gay men, Bill and David. He was raised by them from 2nd grade through high school, and was constantly on the honor roll and then got in to Harvard after giving a valedictorian speech to his class.

During a rather touching moment during the graduation party, he gave a speech. During this speech he gave a thank you to two men for getting him off his ass after his dad died, getting him on the right track, keeping him off drugs, teaching him good study habits, and providing him with a great life.

These two men were none other than Bill and Dave.

Gay men cannot create a heathy family surrounding...tell that to Michael.

That is a great story and hopefully an eye opener for some people. Once again I state I don't understand what all the fuss is about? We live in the year 2008 not 108. Times change and people need to learn to adapt.

im all for it.

Well, thank you sir. I hope it does provide an eye opener, I would love to be important in some way.

I'm completely against it.

oh yeah?! you wanna fight about it

lol

I'll just walk into the conversation and just say "I live in California, we passed the law saying it's legal, do whatever you want, GO NUTS!"

And I agree...

I'm all for gays having the right to marry.

And as far as people justifying their bigotry with the bible, consider the fact that this book suggests that women who are not virgins on the day of their marriage should be stoned to death on their father's doorstep.

When interpreted in a cautious, figurative way, the bible isn't so bad, but if taken completely literally as it is by so many people today, it's a hate-filled bronze age text that inspires hate in countless numbers.

I'm okay with gay marriage. I think it should be legal.

My sister-in-law is gay and in a serious relationship. It's sad because for now, they can't marry. They have to stay engaged until they can go somewhere to be married. The love she has for her girlfriend is the exact same kind I have for my husband. The only difference between us two couples is the junk in our pants.

People that wish to be with someone of the same sex have and should be given the same options for marriage and all the things that go along with it like shared insurance plans through employment, joint filing for taxes, etc.

Just my two cents, of course.

As long as a gay dude doesn't grab my ass or make out in front of my kids (Men or Women), then I'm fine with their gayness.

In no way attacking your opinion here but just out of curiosity: why don't you want your kids to see gay people making out when straight people are ok?