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I know , well, knew the ultimate warrior, back in the 80's when we moved he helped us, my mom and dad back in the 70s used to know a bunch of wrestlers and infact thats how they met, my mom was dating boby henan and my dad was at a show with andre the giant and handsome jimmy valiant ( later knowen as the boogie woogie man ) and they met, anyways about the warrior, he is a seamstress in his spare times sewing curtains and the like - this is no shit either, honest to gods truth,

on a slightly less off topic note, the warrior is suposedly making a come back, rumor has it to TNA, wouldnt be suprised if at some point sting has to pick some mystery partner and itll end up being the warrior, as they used to be a tag team back in the day.

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ZombiesAteMyDog wrote:
on a slightly less off topic note, the warrior is suposedly making a come back, rumor has it to TNA, wouldnt be suprised if at some point sting has to pick some mystery partner and itll end up being the warrior, as they used to be a tag team back in the day.


I hadn't heard that, but I have to say I doubt it. Last I read, The Warrior was doing some college tour thing talking about crazy extreme neo-conservatism...or something like that. That was a couple years back though, who knows now. Maybe he's broke again and needs the money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WlNb3j1llc

Don't watch that video if you cherish your childhood memories of The Ultimate Warrior.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:42 pm 
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Don't watch that video if you cherish your childhood memories of The Ultimate Warrior.


I remembered seeing that about a year ago and being sick to my stomach! :verymad:

I never really liked Warrior back in the day (I was more of a Bret Hart fan) but that just made him a complete douche in my eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:56 pm 
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Don't watch that video if you cherish your childhood memories of The Ultimate Warrior.


I remembered seeing that about a year ago and being sick to my stomach! :verymad:

I never really liked Warrior back in the day (I was more of a Bret Hart fan) but that just made him a complete douche in my eyes.


Yeah you S.O.B. you took my theme song for my GH Bio. :snooty: j/k

I'm so sad that I lost my hitman shades sometime last century. Please tell me you still have a pair of those lying around and I'll give up the theme song with no fight. :-D

I still say the hitman was the most exciting wrestler to watch, nobody could slap on a sharpshooter like he could.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:15 pm 
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Low Budget Jeff wrote:
Yeah you S.O.B. you took my theme song for my GH Bio. :snooty: j/k

I'm so sad that I lost my hitman shades sometime last century. Please tell me you still have a pair of those lying around and I'll give up the theme song with no fight. :-D

I still say the hitman was the most exciting wrestler to watch, nobody could slap on a sharpshooter like he could.


Ya snooze ya looze, zon :serious:

Sadly no, I never owned any; my parents never liked me being into wrestling so any mention of it at home was taboo :(

He is without a doubt the most exiting wrestler to watch; very technical and charismatic and the best face ever in wrestling. Too bad McMahon decided to make him a heel... that really ruined a lot IMO (even though it kind of backfired).

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:07 pm 
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I used to be a real big WWF/E fan for a long time as a child/teenager but it's gone downhill pretty much since Bret Hart was screwed by Vince as the content became more about promo's and shock while the wrestling took a backseat. Now we're stuck with a WWE full of guys who can barely even wrestle (John Cena my god), yet are pushed to the top even when they're booed constantly. The last wrestler I actually cared about was Chris Benoit and we all know what happened there so I really just don't care about the WWE anymore and their sick and uncaring ruthless billionaire owner. Man how many people have died under his rule? Does he even care?

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:22 pm 
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The fact that the WWE banned some moves doesn't help the case at all. In fact, it creates a ludicrous contradiction as long as things like unprotected chairshots are still allowed in the same promotion (concussions are just part of the job I take it). TNA, ROH, CZW and most indies are at least consistent in allowing everything in the first place. If they want to break their bodies, let them … not to mention Japan where it seems they take vicious head bumps like a morning shower.


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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
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http://ultimatewarriortv.com/

he is infact making a come back, how far it will go who knows, it may be this one time show, but Ive read on a few rumor sites ( for what they are worth ) he is also in talks with TNA.

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Zeddy wrote:
I used to be a real big WWF/E fan for a long time as a child/teenager but it's gone downhill pretty much since Bret Hart was screwed by Vince as the content became more about promo's and shock while the wrestling took a backseat. Now we're stuck with a WWE full of guys who can barely even wrestle (John Cena my god), yet are pushed to the top even when they're booed constantly. The last wrestler I actually cared about was Chris Benoit and we all know what happened there so I really just don't care about the WWE anymore and their sick and uncaring ruthless billionaire owner. Man how many people have died under his rule? Does he even care?


I've heard that Ted Dibiase's son is signed to WWE now... way to milk the legends :\

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
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Zeddy wrote:
I used to be a real big WWF/E fan for a long time as a child/teenager but it's gone downhill pretty much since Bret Hart was screwed by Vince as the content became more about promo's and shock while the wrestling took a backseat. Now we're stuck with a WWE full of guys who can barely even wrestle (John Cena my god), yet are pushed to the top even when they're booed constantly. The last wrestler I actually cared about was Chris Benoit and we all know what happened there so I really just don't care about the WWE anymore and their sick and uncaring ruthless billionaire owner. Man how many people have died under his rule? Does he even care?


I've heard that Ted Dibiase's son is signed to WWE now... way to milk the legends :\

I totally forgot about that yeah his son is now on the roster. I think he is also trying to start a rivalry with Dusty Rhodes son Cody Rhodes.

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http://ultimatewarriortv.com/

he is infact making a come back, how far it will go who knows, it may be this one time show, but Ive read on a few rumor sites ( for what they are worth ) he is also in talks with TNA.


Damn. Alright, you convinced me. I'm all about the One Warrior Nation making a comeback. Nothing pumped me up more then to hear that entrance music and his sprint to the ring. Seriously.

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:20 am 
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Swordfish00830 wrote:
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Zeddy wrote:
I used to be a real big WWF/E fan for a long time as a child/teenager but it's gone downhill pretty much since Bret Hart was screwed by Vince as the content became more about promo's and shock while the wrestling took a backseat. Now we're stuck with a WWE full of guys who can barely even wrestle (John Cena my god), yet are pushed to the top even when they're booed constantly. The last wrestler I actually cared about was Chris Benoit and we all know what happened there so I really just don't care about the WWE anymore and their sick and uncaring ruthless billionaire owner. Man how many people have died under his rule? Does he even care?


I've heard that Ted Dibiase's son is signed to WWE now... way to milk the legends :\

I totally forgot about that yeah his son is now on the roster. I think he is also trying to start a rivalry with Dusty Rhodes son Cody Rhodes.


I vaguly remember reading on one of the sites vince is signing a few other wrestlers kids as well along carlito and cody rhodes and whatever other 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers they got and are trying to make a new NWO / four horsemen / Evolution type of group made up of 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers, kinda lame sounding, hoping its not true.

oh and its pretty freaking sad when wrestlings ratings are so low atm he is actualy trying to buy ratings with this million dollar monday stunt

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
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ZombiesAteMyDog wrote:
I vaguly remember reading on one of the sites vince is signing a few other wrestlers kids as well along carlito and cody rhodes and whatever other 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers they got and are trying to make a new NWO / four horsemen / Evolution type of group made up of 2nd or 3rd generation wrestlers, kinda lame sounding, hoping its not true.

oh and its pretty freaking sad when wrestlings ratings are so low atm he is actualy trying to buy ratings with this million dollar monday stunt

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They should let that shit go; Four Horsemen was awesome back in the day but all of the revivals have been shit! Can't they just be creative for once and create something new?

That's a rethorical question btw; there aren't really any strong personalities in WWE anymore

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 Post subject: Re: Wrestling fans
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That's a rethorical question btw; there aren't really any strong personalities in WWE anymore

I think Adam Copeland's "Edge" character works pretty good but that's about it.


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For what it's worth, the WWE originally went down the route of promos/shock value because of WCW; remember that they were getting absolutely thrashed by them due in part to the nWo and Bischoff's practices of ruining the results of Raw when it was taped. They went for the route that WCW wouldn't (or couldn't) take, and they ended up drawing in the eyes and money. I mean, dun get me wrong, I used to watch Raw and Nitro as much as I could back then - thanks to the wonders of TSN, Nitro was usually aired on Tuesday nights/Wednesday afternoons - and I always liked Raw a bit more, if only because the whole Austin/McMahon thing was awesome. But, with WCW dead and TNA not really posing a threat (if I'm not mistaken, the first live episode of Impact got a 1.0, and has been floating around 0.9 - 1.2 for a while, which is insane), the WWE has started to slide backwards into the pre-Monday Night Wars era. Besides, we all should have known it was declining around the time that they had Triple H have sex with a mannequinn.

And we have to remember that Kurt Angle has contracted a severe case of the galloping crazies, especially in interviews where he says that TNA is a genuine threat to the WWE. Personally, I don't think this is the case; the fact that TNA pushes former WWE talent like mad as soon as they sign on, while shunning a majority of their own, homegrown talent (obviously, this excludes Samoa Joe, but I haven't watched TNA in a while) seems kinda ridiculous, as if they think that guys like AJ Styles can't draw the ratings that Angle (who, last time I saw him, looked worse than he ever did in the WWE) can. This is not to say that TNA fails everywhere, of course. The women's division actually has competent women wrestlers, and not just 4-5 that are good with the rest being eye candy that have basic training, and I guess the Knockout matches see the best ratings for Impact. That's good, I kinda wish that the WWE could get their act together with the women's division, but whatever. But then you see something like...Shark Boy or Curryman, and I end up smacking my head in frustration. Seriously, they thought a Stone Cold parody was a good idea? :uhh:

But yeah, the actual quality of matches in TNA is much higher than in the WWE, especially when you have guys like Cena in the ring. Cena, to me, is boring as hell, and you generally know how his matches are gonna end. HBK is getting up there in age, but he can still have great matches, even against guys like Khali (who appears to be a hero in India) and Umaga. Orton, while somewhat amusing and a true heel, is about as exciting as Cena is, especially considering that he uses rest holds like mad, but his pose is kinda cool. \_O__/ Jericho has been misused since he came back, which disappoints me in ways you can't imagine. He was great on the mic back in WCW, and even though he holds the IC title (and has held it since before Wrestlemania), he has defended it a total of three times in 80-some days; he lost one match by DQ, won one by DQ, and cleanly beat Umaga, who is a jobber to the stars. They just seem to not know what to do with him anymore, which is annoying, because they did something similar with Raven...and Raven was writing his own stuff! As far as Edge goes...well, the guy has been in the business for a while - I think he came in sometime after WM14, and was fairly popular. I do think that it says a lot about Smackdown when the main event scene consists entirely of Edge, Undertaker, and Batista; the B-Show is bloody terrible when compared to the flagship, Raw, although I guess the matches on SD! are more wrestling-focused than on Raw (again, it's been a while since I've watched Smackdown for a while). And ECW in general has been butchered, which disappoints me a lot. I never got to see the old ECW, and I had hoped that the WWE brand of ECW would be similar, especially after watching clips of ONS '05; instead, it's basically where the jobbers go to die.

I do hope that TNA does become a true threat to WWE, but it has to happen soon. Maybe then we'll see a rise in quality in the WWE rings, and a rise in quality for storylines in TNA. And for the love of all things unholy, BURN THE STONE COLD PARODY! >_<

Edited to add: By the way, from what I've been hearing about Ted DiBiase Jr, he's actually a proficient wrestler. The dark matches he's had have supposedly been quite good, and I'm looking forward to seeing him in the ring on Raw...as long as they don't botch it up. Besides, he looks like Orton when he first came to the WWE, and Orton was good back then...

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atomic dumpling wrote:
GodLovesYou wrote:
ZombiesAteMyDog wrote:
That's a rethorical question btw; there aren't really any strong personalities in WWE anymore

I think Adam Copeland's "Edge" character works pretty good but that's about it.


Copeland is very charismatic but sadly his Edge character is being sorely misused right now; the whole Vicky Guerrero angle should've ended a while ago IMO.

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By the way, from what I've been hearing about Ted DiBiase Jr, he's actually a proficient wrestler. The dark matches he's had have supposedly been quite good, and I'm looking forward to seeing him in the ring on Raw...as long as they don't botch it up. Besides, he looks like Orton when he first came to the WWE, and Orton was good back then...


With DiBiase as one of his trainers he's sure to be good but the limitations put in place by the WWE restricts his movelist significantly. Also it's worth noting that you're only as strong as your weakest link; if you're a great wrestler working with a sub-standard worker it's bound to look like crap unless you bring it down to his level.

Let's also hope that he doesn't become a new Orton...

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the whole Vicky Guerrero angle should've ended a while ago IMO.

I am totally ambivalent about Vicky. It's often said that Eddie would approve what she's been doing, but I doubt that.


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atomic dumpling wrote:
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the whole Vicky Guerrero angle should've ended a while ago IMO.

I am totally ambivalent about Vicky. It's often said that Eddie would approve what she's been doing, but I doubt that.


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Well I guess we'll never know as he's a bit too DEAD to tell us his wishes <_<

Still, it's her career and life... whatever brings the bread home so to speak, but that doesn't make it any less of a dragged out lame angle. It was pretty interesting when Copeland returned and had this whole inner circle thing going on but now it's just ridiculous!

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Well I guess we'll never know as he's a bit too DEAD to tell us his wishes <_<

My point exactly.


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