First of all, I am not attacking anyone. I just want to get a sense of where everyone stands on this.

It's become somewhat of a phenomenon to hate on pop tart idols like Justin Bieber and now this Rebecca Black chick (yes I saw the video). It's become part of the culture and social norm to joke about how bad these kids are at what they do and frankly, it's a part of the culture that I can't stand.

At what point did 18+ year olds start listening to Justin Bieber and his songs which are targeting a younger demographic and decide that because it's not for them, that they would hate it? I can't say I sympathize with Justin Bieber, (after all he is a rich bitch and will get more pussy than I'll ever get in my lifetime) but it's definitely annoying to hear him being referenced and talked about all the god damn time.

Rebecca Black takes things to a whole new level. Where as Justin Bieber is 16, (an age where you are maturing fast and getting closer to being a young adult) Rebecca Black is 13 and her target audience is middle school brats. Yes I saw her music video for the song "Friday" and yes I will agree she can't sing, but why are 18+ year olds making such a buzz over this. The same people that are giving these pop tart idols so much attention are the same people that are single handedly giving them the key to fame and fortune. Not only that, but if Justin Bieber and Rebecca Black are ruining this generation, then you guys have your selves to thank on that one.

Look, I just wanted to get this out their and onto the table. If you don't like it, that's cool. If you don't agree with me, that's cool. I'm not saying everyone that has ever talked or made a joke about them are assholes, I'm just giving you guys something to think about.

Link, this might have to go in the serious section.

who caresssssssssssss it will all change in like 5 months

Dude, I just posted the Friday video in the Video thread. not just 18 year olds, it's everybody talking about how bad it is.

everyone just needs to relaxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Havokk, you are awesome. I really mean that truly. But unless you have something you can actually add to this thread, you should probably stop posting here.

I'm pretty sure each generation has it's own fuck-ups. Don't think that this one, for all its faults, is the worst.

ok man ill give you a serrous post
I think its crazy how people can get all bum fucked over like fads and shit like why do people even bother like getting all worked up over stuff that SERROUSLY will be like not even mentioed in like a few months and puls that girl int hat music video is hot man
JUSTIN
the Jonas brothers
MILEY
LEONARDO
CHARLIE SHEEN
DENNIS RODMAN

all names that in like a few weeks we will not hear about!
so lets just all come together

I don't think it works that way. I can see people forgetting that Rebecca Black chick in a couple weeks unless the success of her video catches on and she becomes really famous. Once you become a celebrity and you make a big impact on the media, your name isn't going away for years to come.

Also, no one is butt hurt over this. If it's one thing I can't stand, it's people who think there is drama when there really isn't and then cause more drama by trying to play the role of mediator.

Heres is what we should do lets just all write a song and post it online and see who can get famous first:D

Havokk, I will have mad respect for you if you make your own song and post it online. I really wanna see that shit! lol

Pretty much.

I think you're just getting older. People have been putting down generations since the days of Beethoven, Jesus, and Elvis. Just accept it and move on. Generalizing an entire generation as less than isn't worth the stress.

Yeah if you all keep doing it your going to become 80 like 30 years TO EARLY!

I don't know if I would say its the worst, I will say I don't get this new generation on most levels, but then again our parents didn't get us, and their parents didn't get them.

we all sit around and criticize justin bieber or any other flavor of the month , just like our parents disliked and criticized the stuff we liked, and the way their parents thought elvis was the incarnation of satan.

new, popular music by and large is for the youth, it has always been this way, when Elvis first got big it wasn't 40 and 50 year olds that dug him, but 13 - 18 year olds, same with the Beatles, or New Kids on the Block, or the back street boys, what is popular and where music goes and evolves always has been and always will be a function of the youth, and the generation it leaves behind will always be bewildered by it and not understand it and think that "their" music was better, which is why you get the 18+ crowd speaking out against a new musical direction ( or fad ) they don't understand or like.

as Mongo said this has been going on for a long ass time and will continue to go on as long as there is an ever evolving music industry.

I don't trult hate Justin Bieber, sure I take the piss out of him time to time (I do hate him having a movie though) and Rebecca Black is just a bad singer who got lucky because her video went viral, I don't think anythings wrong with this generation, its just social media has become a huge factor in todays modern society and the speed at which information, news, videos or anything of the like travels is beyond anything from a decade ago.

the only thing I truly hate are hipsters, fucking hipsters

I'm going to start listening to Justin Bieber just so I can be ahead of the curve. You know in like 5 years he is going to pull a Justin Timberlake and blow everyone away when he returns with a more mature sound and it is going to be the ultimate dance/party album.




Whatever, American music hasn't had any balls since the 1970s. After that it was endless parade of George Michael girly boys, mall pop tarts, boy bands, american idols, crunk rappers, bling bling rappers, ring tones, TRL, crossover country stars, and more moronic $hit than I care to remember. It is music for the masses made to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

If you two opposable thumbs and are smart enough to post on this forum, then you probally are smart enough to figure out how to find and discover music you do enjoy for free. The music industry isn't going to see any money from you, so why cater to you?

We already let Clear Channel get a monopoly and own near every radio station in the country. MTV dumped music videoes pretty much altogether. You let your local record stores close down and Wal Mart take over only to censor and give you even less selection.

But this is coming from a guy who dumpster dives for vinyl records, so take it with a grain of salt. Light up a fatty and listen to Jim Morrison An American Prayer.

1) RB has a pretty good raw voice
2) Her lyrics are absolutely horrible. But that is still no reason to completely and utterly trash her on the internet and make her life miserable. She's only fucking 13.
3) Why in the hell can't adults enjoy songs sung by younger people?