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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:24 pm 
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I'm pretty confused with this entire situation, to be honest. All I know is that I can't get on PSN, and some Anonymous guy is behind it.


Hope you have some time on your hands

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http://playstationlifestyle.net/2011/04 ... lifestyle/

http://www.tgdaily.com/security-feature ... settlement

http://gamersheep.com/2011/04/anonymous ... witnessed/

http://vgn365.com/2011/04/13/george-hot ... hem-liars/

http://ipconflict.co.uk/2011/04/17/anon ... y-profits/

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:48 am 
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Is anyone really surprised about the hacking? Seriously they warned Sony about their whole asshole tactics for going after modders.

Yeah I know it's "unfair" to mod your system to give you an upper hand but most people who do mod are usually interested in something much more productive than their gamerscore.

Personally I hope that this is just the beginning and more things come upon Sony until they decide to stop being fucking tyrants and allow certain non-criminal mods to continue without prosecution.

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Is anyone really surprised about the hacking? Seriously they warned Sony about their whole asshole tactics for going after modders.

Yeah I know it's "unfair" to mod your system to give you an upper hand but most people who do mod are usually interested in something much more productive than their gamerscore.

Personally I hope that this is just the beginning and more things come upon Sony until they decide to stop being fucking tyrants and allow certain non-criminal mods to continue without prosecution.

And Sony won't listen.

They do have good reasons for not allowing modding, you do realize. For every five people who don't do much with such tech, there's one jackass trying to do harm through hacking. I can understand Sony not wanting that kind of activity associated with their products.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:14 pm 
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To be fair, they are selling it to you as a closed system. Any illusions of open ended-ness is on the consumer's end.

I've always been baffled how people demand closed systems be open and open systems be ignored. Makes no damn sense.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:13 pm 
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To be fair, they are selling it to you as a closed system. Any illusions of open ended-ness is on the consumer's end.

I've always been baffled how people demand closed systems be open and open systems be ignored. Makes no damn sense.


Let us fuck with what we bought.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:36 pm 
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Didn't say people shouldn't be able to mess with it. But to expect them to like and support your messing with it, is just not going to happen.

Anyway, Sony admitted today that personal information has been obtained from PSN users. You should definitely, at the very least, change your password when the service comes back online and be wary of any increase in phishing. The information that was gathered is names, addresses, email addresses, phone numbers, PSN logins and passwords.

It also wouldn't be a bad idea if you've ever used a card to add money to a PSN wallet, that you call up the bank behind the card and change the account number.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
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Hackers stealing personal info.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:40 pm 
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At least there wasn't any credit card info on my account, and I used a secondary e-maill address, instead of my main one.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:12 pm 
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I always bought PSN cards. My debit card refused to work

I also used secondary emails as well, never my main ones.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:18 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:34 pm 
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well nothing to worry about the accounts. once it comes on, change all passwords ASAP

and just check your cards to make sure nothing go used

as for billing addresses and emails, i dunno. change them on your accounts and make new ones, delete old accounts if need be. as for billing address, i dunno. how this will affect us I have no idea. I just thought the billing address was for them to know where to send physical bills if need be

this whole situation is angering and frustrating but unlike some who claim they will, I wont stop purchasing sony material. This could have happened on Paypal, Amazon, etc. just happened to be the PSN in the end.

So far no one has reported any problems. If so, no one knows about it yet. If nothing comes of this, then I know for a fact that Sony was just targeted over this whole thing with Geohot and stuff. Anonymous may claim no involvement, but they are not a hive mind. Any single one of them could have the potential to do this

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
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Well, the issue with the personal information like your name ... at some places, all you need to take credit out is the name, address, phone number, and birth date. It's pretty crappy.

That's the only real danger.

However, it's much more likely that they'll mine the information and sell it to ad companies ... or russians. You know, whatever.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:48 pm 
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I wanna break every bone in Hotz body for opening Pandora's Box... all four feet of him. Or should I count his ugly curly afro too?

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:50 pm 
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I wanna break every bone in Hotz body for opening Pandora's Box... all four feet of him. Or should I count his ugly curly afro too?


speaking of which

Anonymous should just quit while they are ahead at this point. Thanks to some rogue hacker(s) I doubt anything will persuade Sony to stop the lawsuit on anything hacking related lol


I am not defending Sony completely here. They should have had better protection, but this could have happened anyone at any time on the web where you store such info. Ultimately in the end it is some douche bag hacker's fault. There is absolutely no reason for someone to do this aside from out of greed.

Unless as my friend jokingly said "its a diabolical plot by Sony to fake a hacking to scare people and have a reason to beef security because of the Anonymous thing or whatever"

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:49 pm 
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The Rebug firmware has nothing to do with the discovery of the PS3's rootkey.

This is, just to note, entirely Sony's fault. They left sensitive abilities in the debug mode on all commercial PS3's that allowed this to happen! It's not the fault of Hotz finding their poorly hidden Root key, or the firmware creators fault for wanting to mess with a debug mode (to note, there's nothing on their site on how to do this)

And if it entirely from a hack on the PSN servers ... it has nothing to do with either of those things and was probably due to poor server security or someone working for Sony leaking access.

In otherwords, could people stop getting pissed off about random things they've happened to heard about that has something to do with PlayStation and generically blaming it for whatever issues are currently happening? Nobody knows much of anything at this point and jumping to conclusions so quickly is not just pointless ... it's really annoying.

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:57 am 
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The Rebug firmware has nothing to do with the discovery of the PS3's rootkey.

This is, just to note, entirely Sony's fault. They left sensitive abilities in the debug mode on all commercial PS3's that allowed this to happen! It's not the fault of Hotz finding their poorly hidden Root key, or the firmware creators fault for wanting to mess with a debug mode (to note, there's nothing on their site on how to do this)

And if it entirely from a hack on the PSN servers ... it has nothing to do with either of those things and was probably due to poor server security or someone working for Sony leaking access.

In otherwords, could people stop getting pissed off about random things they've happened to heard about that has something to do with PlayStation and generically blaming it for whatever issues are currently happening? Nobody knows much of anything at this point and jumping to conclusions so quickly is not just pointless ... it's really annoying.


Sony has fault for the PSN having crap security. But at this point I want this hacker in jail. But thats jsut hoping they could even begin to pinpoint the source. There's modding and cheating on a game and then there is stuff like this. There is no reason for this and I highly doubt Anonymous cares much for this kind of attack either. The one who did it plain and simple just took opportunity of a relatively, and probably initially intended harmless CFW to express his or her greed

Though in the end I expect the new PSN to block anyone who has that dev account firmware and require an update. The dev accounts probably won't work even if someone still had them considering they are rebuilding. most likely those accounts will no longer exist so at this point Rebug is a moot subject. Two things that need to be done

1. Sony needs to tighten security on PSN

2. Hacker needs to be caught and made an example of. There are just some things people should not do. This is one of them

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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:15 am 
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The entire reason why PSN is down still is because Sony is rewriting the security end of PSN. As far as I know they've hired security companies to track down what happened, who did it, and etc. They'll likely coordinate something with Interpol and the FBI after they have more information.

I agree, the people who did that should have a reprimandations. However, that doesn't exempt Sony's lack of security.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:16 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Anonymous declares hacker war on the PSN
PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:46 am 
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Crono wrote:
The entire reason why PSN is down still is because Sony is rewriting the security end of PSN. As far as I know they've hired security companies to track down what happened, who did it, and etc. They'll likely coordinate something with Interpol and the FBI after they have more information.

I agree, the people who did that should have a reprimandations. However, that doesn't exempt Sony's lack of security.


I just hope he/she/it is caught. Sony should have had better security but the major fault lies with some douche who thought they could do whatever they want

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