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 Post subject: About Forum questions/statements.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:49 pm 
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I've developed a minor case of insomnia in the last few weeks, and as I was laying in my bed tonight this thing kept on bugging me and bugging me to the point that I had to turn on my computer and type out all these thoughts.

Before I start I'm gonna state that I really do like the game heroes podcast because some of this text might come out as a criticism towards it. (most of it apparently)


The main issue I have with the forum questions is that to me the whole section comes out as a kind of a fan service where forum members post in questions in the hopes that they get their username out in to the podcast and that maybe the cast will have some kind of a positive response to the question. The reason I say this is because when i'm truly honest with myself I find that that's why I did it. I don't post podcast questions anymore because of this realisation.
Now granted that may just be me and my guest for a bigger e-peen and I'm sure that a lot of the questions posted are posted because the users simply want the answers.

But that's also why I so very much dislike the forum statements bit. Because it kind of highlights everything I dislike about the forum questions. It just dissolves into this weird circle-jerk where everyone is vying for this goal of getting a positive response from Andy and just hoping for some extra inches on that damnable e-penis.

I fear that all of this is driving the cast further away from the community rather than bringing it closer to it.


I realise that by posting this I am propably making a lot of enemies and I proplably sound like a class A douche. But for the sake of me getting any sleep tonight I had to post this.


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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:47 pm 
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I don't think it makes you a douche to reveal your thoughts on the matter. I don't want to offend anyone in saying this but I'm not very fond of forum statements. In fact, I generally skip over most if not all of them. It's got nothing to do with Andy The Movie The Game, it's just that the section is completely irrelevant to me.

Forum questions aren't as bad because some good discussions can come out of them but I generally don't listen to the whole thing (because it's usually pretty long too).

To get back to your point: I'll admit that I was once tempted to post questions I didn't care much about. I thought I would ask a question hoping it would be picked but I actually wouldn't care that much about the answer. I decided against it however and haven't asked anything since.

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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:23 pm 
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No worries, I don't think anyone should get offended. It's not like bashing and insulting without any argument or thought, complete opposite, you bring a fully fletched statement.

Yeah, forum statement is pretty much randomness with no general purpose. Give some laughs sometimes, but leaves most confusion.

Podcast questions, well I guess that's their means of keeping in touch with the community, because don't have much time for the forum. (just a guess)

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I fear that all of this is driving the cast further away from the community rather than bringing it closer to it.
Interesting, how do you mean?

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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
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I've asked a majority of my questions to spur interesting discussions, which happens every now and then. Forum Statements may have overstayed their welcome, and really are just people trying to be in the limelight and vying to be funny, etc.

It's sort of like the Hate Mail on Prototype. Most of it is fake, and it's just people trying hard to be funny, sometimes succeeding, most times generally not (in my opinion.) Ultimately, the key to a successful podcast/blog/anything is audience participation, you need to interact with your fanbase, let them know you're real people and are interested in what they have to say. At that point, you're essentially HOOKED on the concept that you're conversing with "cewebrities" and you try to get in the spotlight as much as you can by participating, and in some way, become a part of the show/site overall. It's just what tends to happen with these things, and the practice is very Podcasting 101, it's why things like "Forum Questions" are so popular to begin with.

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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:55 am 
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Some fair complaints. I, myself, always get a good chuckle out of forum statements and I've always felt that forum questions is the meat of the show. I would like to see a "Game of the Week" (picked by the crew) and why (not a review really, just a few words and maybe an anecdote to go along with it. It could be any game at any point in time). I think that would spice up the podcast a little.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:03 am 
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Bernie wrote:
I've developed a minor case of insomnia in the last few weeks, and as I was laying in my bed tonight this thing kept on bugging me and bugging me to the point that I had to turn on my computer and type out all these thoughts.

Before I start I'm gonna state that I really do like the game heroes podcast because some of this text might come out as a criticism towards it. (most of it apparently)


The main issue I have with the forum questions is that to me the whole section comes out as a kind of a fan service where forum members post in questions in the hopes that they get their username out in to the podcast and that maybe the cast will have some kind of a positive response to the question. The reason I say this is because when i'm truly honest with myself I find that that's why I did it. I don't post podcast questions anymore because of this realisation.
Now granted that may just be me and my guest for a bigger e-peen and I'm sure that a lot of the questions posted are posted because the users simply want the answers.

But that's also why I so very much dislike the forum statements bit. Because it kind of highlights everything I dislike about the forum questions. It just dissolves into this weird circle-jerk where everyone is vying for this goal of getting a positive response from Andy and just hoping for some extra inches on that damnable e-penis.

I fear that all of this is driving the cast further away from the community rather than bringing it closer to it.


I realise that by posting this I am propably making a lot of enemies and I proplably sound like a class A douche. But for the sake of me getting any sleep tonight I had to post this.


Some fair statements here ( ;) )

I'll talk it over with the fellahs and see what they think. My hopes are that people get a laugh and that is really it. If no laughs or enjoyment then my little 2 min segment of the 35 minute podcast can be removed.

I leave it up to the audience to decide.

-A TMTG


(I could do without the circle jerk reference but it is noted)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 5:29 am 
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Indomitus wrote:
Bernie wrote:
I fear that all of this is driving the cast further away from the community rather than bringing it closer to it.
Interesting, how do you mean?


As it stands, the forum questions is the main way for most of the cast to interact with us, seeing how most of them don't find the time to browse and post on the forums (except for Mickey of course) and that's fine, I can understand that. It's kind of like Link said about sparking a conversation, that if I thought up a question I really wanted to ask, it propably would not get answered in the 30 sec. to 2 min timeslot every question is given.

This is why I love the Prototype and YIBR because the community gets to suggest topics for the guys to discuss. And in effect this is the same thing as the forum questions with the diffrence that the guys really start to riff on that topic. The guys on both shows have such good chemistry that it's always really inresting to listen to and I think that this way the rest of the community feels a sense of involvement when we go to the thread dedicated to the podcast and continue the discusion there.

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I would like to see a "Game of the Week" (picked by the crew) and why (not a review really, just a few words and maybe an anecdote to go along with it. It could be any game at any point in time). I think that would spice up the podcast a little.

I agree with this because in a weird way the part of the podcast I most enjoy is the intro. Because it's just Tom and someone else just talking about the week ahead and what they've been playing recently. And somehow that feels comfortable and natural and something that would happen if I was just hanging with my friends.

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(I could do without the circle jerk reference but it is noted)

Sorry about that. It was 4 am. and I wasn't feeling all that articulate. :teehee:


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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
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As I said before, but I'll try and articulate it into a nice Wall of Text (patent pending) for you guys.

Forum Statements are fun and creative. I really enjoyed how they spun out of a joke into an actual part of the podcast. I haven't had an opportunity to watch a podcast with Forum Statements in it for a while, but if the statement is shown (or read) and then Andy responds to it, that's pretty cool as long as the Statement is worth reading. I think we've all had our fill of Chuck Norris jokes, etc. I think the contributors to Forum Statements should step up their game to make the feature worthwhile... just looking at what we currently have... it seems like a majority of people are confused by the concept of "STATEMENT" and are instead asking questions and/or making demands/requests.

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"Recommend some good music to me."

"Coffee preference?

Milk, cream, sugar, blood from a virgin?"

"FIRSTLY, Andy you need to speak like a fashionista for a full session of Forum Statements.

Anyways andy...can you get more awesome than this?

(photo of an ape and shark highfiving)"

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."


Like... what the heck is all of that? It's just a lot of people trying really hard to be funny and get their two seconds in the spotlight. Like... damn, I don't even know, and looking at last week's statements, there are maybe two or three half decent statements, and the rest are all youtube videos and photos. I'm so damn confused.

So... long story short, in order to make Forum Statements a really good segment that won't out stay it's welcome... MAKE SOME GOOD SEMI-NORMAL STATEMENTS FOR ANDY TO READ AND RESPOND TO!

IE.
Star Wars is better than Star Trek.
Batman would totally beat Superman in a fight.
Andy, I love you.
Robots will rule the world in 2012.
Everything is bigger in Texas.

Stuff like that would make for good Forum Statements IMHO. Andy would have a lot of room to voice opinions and/or counterpoints to your statements and it could be a lot of fun instead of someone posting a giant nonsensical math equation about Andy's awesomeness.

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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:06 pm 
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As I said before, but I'll try and articulate it into a nice Wall of Text (patent pending) for you guys.

Forum Statements are fun and creative. I really enjoyed how they spun out of a joke into an actual part of the podcast. I haven't had an opportunity to watch a podcast with Forum Statements in it for a while, but if the statement is shown (or read) and then Andy responds to it, that's pretty cool as long as the Statement is worth reading. I think we've all had our fill of Chuck Norris jokes, etc. I think the contributors to Forum Statements should step up their game to make the feature worthwhile... just looking at what we currently have... it seems like a majority of people are confused by the concept of "STATEMENT" and are instead asking questions and/or making demands/requests.

Spoiler
"Recommend some good music to me."

"Coffee preference?

Milk, cream, sugar, blood from a virgin?"

"FIRSTLY, Andy you need to speak like a fashionista for a full session of Forum Statements.

Anyways andy...can you get more awesome than this?

(photo of an ape and shark highfiving)"

"Last night, Darth Vader came down from planet Vulcan and told me that if I didn't take Lorraine out that he'd melt my brain."


Like... what the heck is all of that? It's just a lot of people trying really hard to be funny and get their two seconds in the spotlight. Like... damn, I don't even know, and looking at last week's statements, there are maybe two or three half decent statements, and the rest are all youtube videos and photos. I'm so damn confused.

So... long story short, in order to make Forum Statements a really good segment that won't out stay it's welcome... MAKE SOME GOOD SEMI-NORMAL STATEMENTS FOR ANDY TO READ AND RESPOND TO!

IE.
Star Wars is better than Star Trek.
Batman would totally beat Superman in a fight.
Andy, I love you.
Robots will rule the world in 2012.
Everything is bigger in Texas.

Stuff like that would make for good Forum Statements IMHO. Andy would have a lot of room to voice opinions and/or counterpoints to your statements and it could be a lot of fun instead of someone posting a giant nonsensical math equation about Andy's awesomeness.


This would most certainly be helpful :)

-A TMTG

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 Post subject: Re: About Forum questions/statements.
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I think the biggest flaw with forum statements is that people watching it can't read the statements without having to look through the forums for it. Why not read out them before your react? Or just have a the question pop up on screen before your response?

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I think the biggest flaw with forum statements is that people watching it can't read the statements without having to look through the forums for it. Why not read out them before your react? Or just have a the question pop up on screen before your response?


I totally agree. If I dont read the thread before the podcast I have no idea whats going on in the segment. In that case I usually just fast forward through it. Not saying its not a good part of the podcast, because it is and when I do read the thread before hand its good, but its almost like watching Jeopardy, but instead of reading the questions first the whole show is just the contestants answering. If that was the case it just wouldnt make any sence. Thats what its like when you dont know the statement he is commenting on.

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mscupcakes wrote:
I think the biggest flaw with forum statements is that people watching it can't read the statements without having to look through the forums for it. Why not read out them before your react? Or just have a the question pop up on screen before your response?


Personally I still think they're funny because I don't know what he's talking about most of the time.
I suppose that makes it more like "Andy Reacts" rather than Forum Statements or something...but whatever.

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I haven't been a member of the GH forum for that long, but I've followed the podcast sporadically for quite some time, and I think I agree with you Bernie. It seems to me a lot of the forum questions are just nonsense and a cry for attention. And, sadly, it seems to me those nonsensical (is that the word?) questions often are the ones to get answered. Since I joined the forum, I've seen a great deal of really GOOD questions go by unnoticed, while complete random stupidity gets answered. Shape up, heroes!

Also, thumbs up to Mickey for actually being active on the forum. You're a stand up guy, Mickey!

As for forum statements... I just don't get it. Maybe I'm just slow, I dunno, but I really don't.

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