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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:45 pm 
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You would trust people who know the gaming culture to make a determination whether or not a philosophical principle is being applied correctly to a real life scenario...Uh....I GUESS that made sense?

I'd trust people to know the gaming culture to know about gaming and whether or not fighting games truly suck, smartass. What the fuck do fighting games have to do with philosophy?


We weren't talking about that. We were talking about the proper usage of Kant's universality test as it was applied in my article about campers. Then you pitched in saying you would trust the word of people who know gaming culture over that of philosophy professors to determine whether or not the test was used correctly.


Why the fuck was that being discussed in "why fighting games suck?"
I misunderstood the concept, I thought we were still bitching about how fighting games do or do not suck. I can't find the Camper article posted here so I didn't even know it existed


Sheeeit. Threads just go wherever the hell they want, don't they?

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:47 pm 
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All bitching aside, Xander. I think this article could have saved you some heat from people if you simply changed it to say "why I dislike fighting games" or "why I don't like fighting games" or something like that. Saying that fighting games suck as if you were stating fact will just draw negative attention to yourself.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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YutzWagon wrote:

Why the fuck was that being discussed in "why fighting games suck?"

Sheeeit. Threads just go wherever the hell they want, don't they?


Because for some reason someone tried to swing the thread around to discussing another article I wrote about how campers ruin video games and that Kant's test didn't apply to it. I just replied to them that several professors in Philosophy e-mailed me about the piece telling me it WAS properly used when someone THEN replied that I was just trying to look smarter than someone to which I pointed out that I would rather trust the judgement of profesors in Philosophy on that subject rather than just some kid on a video gaming forum when you said you would rather trust gamers and then here we are. Whew now that was a run-on sentence if I ever saw one. It looks like you made your reply in error though so I guess we can drop this part of the conversation.

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All bitching aside, Xander. I think this article could have saved you some heat from people if you simply changed it to say "why I dislike fighting games" or "why I don't like fighting games" or something like that. Saying that fighting games suck as if you were stating fact will just draw negative attention to yourself.


Could have. But wouldn't you know that the Examiner.com website underwent a major re-design several hours after posting and it was (and still is) not possible to edit older stories? So unfortunately, it is stuck the way it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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YES SUGARGENE IS SO MAD! His internet rage is almost palpable. And to think all because he learned his favorite genre of gaming was for noobs he hulk raged. ;) I kind of regret voting for that guy on Sony's reality show every day now that I realize he's just a jerk.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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Something tells me this topic is going to end soon.

But it's so lulzy!
It's funny how people care so much about how other people don't care.
That goes to everyone who was srs business in this thread. Including me.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:27 pm 
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YutzWagon wrote:
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Something tells me this topic is going to end soon.

But it's so lulzy!
It's funny how people care so much about how other people don't care.
That goes to everyone who was srs business in this thread. Including me.

SNAKE, YOU'VE CREATED A TIME PARADOX.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
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I brought up your use of Kant as applied to videogames because it speaks of a generally anti-Pringles attitude that inhibits an appreciation of fight man games. Kant's principle of universality is just more text in Vaneigem's wardrobe as far as I'm concerned, and I attacked it since Prisoner's Dilemma which is at the heart of so much tactical play requires not applying that principle to be effective.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:30 pm 
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Xander756 wrote:
Here's a challenge for you. I dare you to purchase me a copy of Street Fighter IV for the Xbox 360 (because I'll be damned if I'm going to waste my money on a fighting game). Give me one year to play it to gain the necessary EXPERIENCE to win. After one year, I will destroy you in it at least 50% of the time. Care to take me up on this?


I think this is a fantastic idea. I really do. Somebody take him up on this! And I don't mean to go into it with any real sense of bias or rooting for one or the other argument, I'd really like to see the outcome.


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@Maximus Prime: don't get me started on sports games. I used to buy Madden every year before I realized it was just the same shit every time. I probably have eight or nine iterations of Madden just sitting on my shelf. The year that broke the camel's back for me was when there was a money play which my friend showed me in one years game that worked in the next. It got you a first down EVERY TIME. Even when playing online and people KNEW IT WAS COMING, it couldn't be stopped. After that I never played it again.


Thank you, thank you, thank you. I ran into that in Madden '95. Totally broken game.

That being said, even in that case, although it's getting tougher to find the people these days, I've found that if you look hard enough, you'll find somebody who can shut it down. Like in some fighting games, you used to see in the arcades where somebody would come along and just flatten everybody with some cheap yet simple tactic he discovered (or stole). It would work on everybody up until "that one guy" showed up and exposed it for what it was and beat him without getting hit by knowing there was some pixel window you could exploit. Again, there are legit GREAT players out there. you just have to look hard.

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 Post subject: Re: Why fighting games suck
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:39 pm 
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Something tells me this topic is going to end soon.

But it's so lulzy!
It's funny how people care so much about how other people don't care.
That goes to everyone who was srs business in this thread. Including me.

SNAKE, YOU'VE CREATED A TIME PARADOX.

If you think that was confusing you should have seen it before I cleaned it up.

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Xander is showing some icy calm, while the rest of us be getting uppity. He apparently knows philosophy like Kierkegaard. How can we possibly react?


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