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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:14 pm 
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Yeah, except the anime is atrocious and the manga is the only part of the series worth buying/seeing.

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Yeah, except the anime is atrocious and the manga is the only part of the series worth buying/seeing.


Well, I always recommend people that dislike filler to simply skip it. If that's why you think it's atrocious, only watch the canon parts of the anime. If you want to know what episodes are canon, just ask me and I'll tell you. :-)

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Because, you know, READING THE MANGA wouldn't inform me on which parts are canon. Even the canonical episodes are boring with a lot of dragging out silent scenes and an overabundance of flashbacks. Bleach is a much better shounen anime.

But yeah, the actual manga pisses me off simply because of Sasuke stealing the spotlight too often (though not as much as of late) and now Pain. I mean he annoyed me before the Konoha attack before, but after that last chapter... *sigh*

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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Because, you know, READING THE MANGA wouldn't inform me on which parts are canon. Even the canonical episodes are boring with a lot of dragging out silent scenes and an overabundance of flashbacks. Bleach is a much better shounen anime.

But yeah, the actual manga pisses me off simply because of Sasuke stealing the spotlight too often (though not as much as of late) and now Pain. I mean he annoyed me before the Konoha attack before, but after that last chapter... *sigh*


This post is explaining my problems with you saying that Bleach > Naruto.

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My main problem with Bleach is that it's so action oriented that it loses sight of it's plotline. Not that I would ever say that Bleach had the tightest put together plotline ever, but it was a pretty enjoyable one.

The point where they leave las noches and go back to the real world except it is fake is what I'm talking about. Up to a few weeks ago, I don't think we'd seen Ichigo for like a year, seriously, a year. There was so much fighting that the story takes forever to develop. The mangaka seriously makes characters speak minimal lines in chapters for like the last 2 years or so. I can't believe that Bleach is still in this arc.

I still like Bleach, but I do remember when I read the Pendulum stuff where they go back like 100 years, I remembered why I liked Bleach in the first place. Those chapters proved to me that he still remembers what Bleach is all about. I don't dislike fighting anime at all, in fact, I'm a huge fan, but I just think that more plot development towards a goal is needed. I just don't want to see random Soul Society Captains/Vice Captains fight random Arrancar that I've never even seen before until this fight. It just doesn't create any suspense for me.

If Gin/Tousen were going to get into a fight, of course I'd care, but that's not the case. Aizen is just sending out wave after wave of random bad guys and everyone needs to fight them for like 7 chapters a piece.

This rant kinda got long and probably should be in the Bleach forum, but I disagree about your points on Naruto. Naruto's plotline is moving along. It may not be moving along to where you want it to be, but if you look at the last 2 years of Naruto manga and the last 2 years of Bleach manga, it is like night and day when you see what is advancing the plot more. Naruto is working towards what it always has. Hell, it's even put some closure on some very early plot lines, which these kinds of shows hate doing.

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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The thing with bleach is that they have too many characters. The mains that started out are now overshadowed by the captains and vice captains.

Naruto IS indeed moving along, before it wasn't worthy of the title of "Naruto" and should be "Sasuke" instead but with his new found powers and jutsus in part II, Naruto is kicking ass.

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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First of all, I'm down with a anime with a large cast of characters. Naruto has five teams that show up frequently through out the series, and thankfully the anime (until it hit the big filler) was right on track. I was also happy that the filler arc now made use of Hinata's team since they haven't even fought in the manga at all. As for Bleach, I was happy that there were ten espada for a reason. 10 fights, then Ichigo & team would encounter Aizen, kill him, rescue orihime, go home. Shit isn't that easy since the each Espada past 4 has a poop load of sidekicks (they have a name, but I don't feel like looking it up). Grimmjow's were cool because they only lived for a few episodes and that we saw Ikkaku's Bankai in the process, which was super badass.

Now we got like a billion fights going on at once, and as you said, it seems to only focus on one fight at a time then it randomly switches to another one... I told my friends that if Bleach keeps on going after this - that it should: A. Make a shorter arc next time for the love of god B. Keep Rukia/Ishida/Orihime/Chad tied to a chain so they don't get captured by some insanely overpowered villain or my favorite C. Ichigo nails Rukia or Orihime... or both (why not? xD) have kids, lives happily ever after

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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First of all, I'm down with a anime with a large cast of characters. Naruto has five teams that show up frequently through out the series, and thankfully the anime (until it hit the big filler was right on track. I was also happy that the filler arc now made use of Hinata's team since they haven't even fought in the manga at all. As for Bleach, I was happy that there were ten espada for a reason. 10 fights, then Ichigo & team would encounter Aizen, kill him, rescue orihime, go home. Shit isn't that easy since the each Espada past 4 has a poop load of sidekicks (they have a name, but I don't feel like looking it up). Grimmjow's were cool because they only lived for a few episodes and that we saw Ikkaku's Bankai in the process, which was super badass.

Now we got like a billion fights going on at once, and as you said, it seems to only focus on one fight at a time then it randomly switches to another one... I told my friends that if Bleach keeps on going after this - that it should: A. Make a shorter arc next time for the love of god B. Keep Rukia/Ishida/Orihime/Chad tied to a chain so they don't get captured by some insanely overpowered villain or my favorite C. Ichigo nails Rukia or Orihime... or both (why not? xD) have kids, lives happily ever after


C is possible in seinen anime. lol....or hentais. Well it did happen to groove adventure rave so its possible. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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She's alive! Barely but she isn't dead yet... Imma be so angry if they kill her...

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She's alive! Barely but she isn't dead yet... Imma be so angry if they kill her...

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What i'm pissed about is that when they kept asking is Kakashi is dead, they never actually said it. I'll stick with my hopes that he isn't until someone tosses his ass into a coffin. Same goes with Shizune & Hinata.

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I just updated the first post with the latest episode and manga posts on Naruto411.com. Remember you can download the subbed versions the episode here for free (480p, 720p, 1080p, and Hardsub AVI thats good with low end computers) and you can also read the manga directly on the site without any kind of registration bs either. Enjoy. :-D

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She's alive! Barely but she isn't dead yet... Imma be so angry if they kill her...

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What i'm pissed about is that when they kept asking is Kakashi is dead, they never actually said it. I'll stick with my hopes that he isn't until someone tosses his ass into a coffin. Same goes with Shizune & Hinata.


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One of the Recent mangas, already stated Shizune is dead, Kakashi is most likely either way at the moment., Hinata is alive though.

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 Post subject: Re: Official Naruto Discussion Thread
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@Axel (to avoid a huge quoted post)
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True... yet I can't believe Shizune just died so easily. We knew that she was of Jounin level, and she always worked directly under the hokage... so it just doesn't add up to well.

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in reaction to the whole thing

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Shizune's demise was a matter of being at the wrong place at the wrong time, at a jounin level, she's still pretty much a healer and or assistant, take note that Tsunade's real successor is none other than Sakura. Kakashi was dead (officially) when he talked to his dad in the afterlife and when Tsunade couldn't sense his chakra anymore. Choji should've just taken the bullet lol.

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in reaction to the whole thing

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Shizune's demise was a matter of being at the wrong place at the wrong time, at a jounin level, she's still pretty much a healer and or assistant, take note that Tsunade's real successor is none other than Sakura. Kakashi was dead (officially) when he talked to his dad in the afterlife and when Tsunade couldn't sense his chakra anymore. Choji should've just taken the bullet lol.

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I can't really imagine on how the Naruto manga will continue after this, like seriously. All hell has broken loose. literally. And I feel if a group of ninja actually find Pain, that he would kill all of them. I have a feeling Ino's dad will probably like "PAIN I KNOW YOUR SECRET" *get's impaled, dies* and at the rate were going, something tells me Yamato will probably die while attempting to seal the six tails. I mean if three (decently or well known) characters die in recent chapters, I'm positive that they aren't the last.

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I can't really imagine on how the Naruto manga will continue after this, like seriously. All hell has broken loose. literally. And I feel if a group of ninja actually find Pain, that he would kill all of them. I have a feeling Ino's dad will probably like "PAIN I KNOW YOUR SECRET" *get's impaled, dies* and at the rate were going, something tells me Yamato will probably die while attempting to seal the six tails. I mean if three (decently or well known) characters die in recent chapters, I'm positive that they aren't the last.


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lets hope that Sakura and the others get to Hinata in time. I hear ya, they gave pain Uber Hax. I mean characters are dying faster than the Saiyan saga in DBZ. It's like atleast a member from each team would die or get radically injured....(insert Team Gai member here) or something like that. I kinda feel bad for the pursuit team going to the tower though. I don't think they're enough, however. Pain is losing chakra too so I'm pretty excited on how things would turn out.

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@Axel (to avoid a huge quoted post)
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True... yet I can't believe Shizune just died so easily. We knew that she was of Jounin level, and she always worked directly under the hokage... so it just doesn't add up to well.



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We never really saw Shizune Fight though Remember that. We saw her use needles once I think, and that was about it. Though Remember Kakashi is Easily Above Jounin Level, He's probably at Sannin Levels, and he was killed by I think it was 2 peins. Then you also have to consider Konohamaru basically destroyed one, somehow. Which means he has to be stronger than even shizune. Which is odd, but I look forward to seeing him more no doubt. Shizune's Mind was taken by PEin I think. So she may have a small sliver of a chance to come back, however what's the point of killing people in the manga only to bring them back, He pretty much exhausted that with Gaara.

Thats mainly why I think Kakashi is Dead, and Shizune is. Not Sure about Konohamaru but he's probably alive, due to the fact he killed one pein, and I doubt he'd be killed easily by a shockwave. Though Personally I think Gai is the next to die, Gai, Lee, and Yamato, are probably the only ones who can save naruto. Gai because of his ability to open all the gates, Lee is there because of his ability to open the gates, and Yamato ACtually has the sealing ability.

Though I cant think Gai would die there, mainly cause he is probably the one to kill Kisame, or the other guy is, Forgot his name. Also gai is probably one of the closer jounins to Kakashi, and viewed him as a rival and friend. So he might as well finish what kakashi couldnt. It is personally my firm believe that Gai is stronger than Kakashi, and Tsunade, do to those gates, and it would only make sense for the manga to show all 8 gates, since they at the beginning stated the power would be far greater than that of even a Hokage. So they have to use them.

Now since I'm basically labeling what happens since Kakashi died. With Sasuke and Naruto, Kakashi was the bond that held them together. Either in Kakashi's Death, That bond falls apart, and Finally We get the Battle Sasuke vs Naruto that will be held to the end, with Naruto Killing Sasuke. Or Sasuke and Naruto Come together to Destroy Akatsuki. However the prior is more likely to happen.

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You know what I am actually expecting?

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Sasuke and Naruto will fight, Naruto will win, and the rest will play like the finale of Kingdom Hearts II. Put Naruto as Sora, Sasuke as Riku, and Madara or somebody else (Kabutorochimaru?) as Xemnas.

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Updated this week's links with the newest anime/manga. In April, the anime will be returning to canon material, and by canon, I mean 100% canon, not this weird partial canon bs that this filler has been doing. This week's manga was pretty wow.
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I wonder if this means the 4th is alive or if it's only his spirit or whatever. I can't wait to read the next chapter!

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Updated this week's links with the newest anime/manga. In April, the anime will be returning to canon material, and by canon, I mean 100% canon, not this weird partial canon bs that this filler has been doing. This week's manga was pretty wow.
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I wonder if this means the 4th is alive or if it's only his spirit or whatever. I can't wait to read the next chapter!

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I'm betting its uhh whats the word, an imprinted memory onto the seal? So basically when the seal goes into the 8 tails, it releases the memory, and such, to confront naruto, or something like that. Memory is not the term I want to use, but you got the jist. but I wanted to see the 9 tails. ;(

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If you want to see the nine tails, go back to episode 1 of the first Naruto series, LOL.

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